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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=19847">Dr.J</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 7:11am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by -boRg-" alt="Originally posted by -boRg-" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>-boRg- wrote:</strong><br /><br />The problem with the changes you have made is that Guests (un-logged in users), will all be seen as 1 user.<BR><BR>So if you have 10 un-logged in users on your forum they will only be seen as 1 user.<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV><DIV>You're right.. The only thing is that our forum is private. That means that every user HAS to register in order to use the forum. In our case this is acceptable.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Thanks for your help in determining the problem!</DIV></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=1">WebWiz-Bruce</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 6:51am<br /><br />The problem with the changes you have made is that Guests (un-logged in users), will all be seen as 1 user.<br><br>So if you have 10 un-logged in users on your forum they will only be seen as 1 user.<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by -boRg- - 24&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 6:52am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=19847">Dr.J</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 6:46am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by -boRg-" alt="Originally posted by -boRg-" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>-boRg- wrote:</strong><br /><br />Most people use the forum in the conventional way on the Internet where most users have different IP addresses.<BR><BR>The only other way to track site visitors is to use sessions, but these only work if the user has &#099;ookies enabled.<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The way we fixed it, is as followed:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><DIV =Secti&#111;n1><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><strong>Changes in active_users_inc.asp</strong></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">'******************************************<BR></FONT></o:p></SPAN><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>'***&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Get users array position ***<BR></o:p></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>'******************************************</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>'Iterate through the array to see if the user is already in the array</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>For intArrayPass = 1 To UBound(saryActiveUsers, 2)</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'Check the IP address</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; '***remove Henk Boons 18 mrt 2005 same IPadres if forum behing proxy</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'If saryActiveUsers(0, intArrayPass) = strIPAddress Then </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 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end if</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'if&nbsp; saryActiveUsers(1, intArrayPass) &lt;&gt; 2 Then</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; '&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; intActiveUsersDblArrayPos = intArrayPass</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'End If</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>Next</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><BR><strong>Changes in log_off_user.asp</strong></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>'Clear the forum &#099;ookie on the users system so the user is no longer logged in</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>Response.&#067;ookies(str&#067;ookieName) = ""</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>Response.&#067;ookies(str&#067;ookieName)("UID") = strLoggedInUsername &amp; "LOGGED-OFF"</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>Response.&#067;ookies("TS") = ""</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>Response.&#067;ookies("LPM") = ""</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>Session("ViRead") = ""</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>saryActiveUsers = Application("saryAppActiveUsers")</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>saryActiveUsers(4, intActiveUserArrayPos) = CDbl(Now()- 7.000000167871E-03) ‘tag date so user expires </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><P =Ms&#111;normal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>'Update the application level variable holding the active ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=1">WebWiz-Bruce</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 5:39am<br /><br />Most people use the forum in the conventional way on the Internet where most users have different IP addresses.<br><br>The only other way to track site visitors is to use sessions, but these only work if the user has &#099;ookies enabled.<br><br>Because HTTP is a stateless protocol it is impossible to track usersaccurately as each page, image, etc. is a separate and new connection,once the page, image, etc. is downloaded to the web browser connectionis dropped. The server has no way of knowing if the user is stillviewing the site, left the site, or if there next request is even fromthe same user.<br><br>To over come this problem tricks has to be used to track visitors likeusing &#099;ookies or trying to track users by their IP address. Both ofwhich have their faults. <br><br>Your only solution would be to convert the system to use sessions to track the users.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=19847">Dr.J</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 3:50am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by -boRg-" alt="Originally posted by -boRg-" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>-boRg- wrote:</strong><br /><br />You are right.<BR><BR>Becuase HTTP makes it so difficult to keep track of users IP addresses are used to identify users. If they all have the same IP address then it will prevent the feature from running.<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I have been tweaking the code somehow to get this to change, however I doubt we're the only one that have this problem. How have other people solved this? Or maybe, what are we doing wrong? :)</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=1">WebWiz-Bruce</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 10:12am<br /><br />You are right.<br><br>Becuase HTTP makes it so difficult to keep track of users IP addressesare used to identify users. If they all have the same IP address thenit will prevent the feature from running.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=19847">Dr.J</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 8:45am<br /><br />I just noticed (after some tweaking) that the forum software checks on IP address for the unique user to be online. At this moment all the users go through our ISA server and seem to get the same IP address. Now it makes sense to me. If I change this, it should work.. right? :)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=19847">Dr.J</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 8:27am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by -boRg-" alt="Originally posted by -boRg-" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>-boRg- wrote:</strong><br /><br />What version are you running?<BR><BR>Also have you tried reuploading files as the most common problem is corrupted files.<BR><BR>Also check that you have application variables enabled on the server.<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV><BR>We're using version 7.9 with dutch language files. The problem remains with the original english version. Seeing I can access the server through a UNC path, I dont think it has to do with uploading errors..</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The application variables are enabled on the server. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also when I click on someones profile, who I know is online, it says OFFLINE. </DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=1">WebWiz-Bruce</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 8:00am<br /><br />What version are you running?<br><br>Also have you tried reuploading files as the most common problem is corrupted files.<br><br>Also check that you have application variables enabled on the server.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=19847">Dr.J</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14297<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18&nbsp;March&nbsp;2005 at 7:53am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by -boRg-" alt="Originally posted by -boRg-" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>-boRg- wrote:</strong><br /><br />It could be that other people have chosen to brows the board anonymously when logging in.</td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I know for a fact that's not the case. A collegue of mine has not turned this feature on, so he should be viewable. Also the Guest/member counter stays on 0.</DIV>]]>
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