Web Wiz Support and Community Forums : Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? https://forums.webwiz.net/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 12 Apr 2026 19:23:19 +0000 Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:50:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.08 360 https://forums.webwiz.net/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=14641 <![CDATA[Web Wiz Support and Community Forums]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://forums.webwiz.net/ <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : dj air wrote: im not...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81118.html#81118 Author: Scratch
Subject: 14641
Posted: 13 April 2005 at 3:50pm

Originally posted by dj air dj air wrote:

im not sure how -boRg- is doing the liciencing

i think existing licence keys will work (will have to be confirmed by him)
 
sfd19, I asked the question in response to what dj air wrote above. No need for you to get snippy about this.
 
]]> Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:50:58 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81118.html#81118 <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : Scratch wrote: Well, duh. Look,...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81098.html#81098 Author: dfrancis
Subject: 14641
Posted: 13 April 2005 at 11:06am

Originally posted by Scratch Scratch wrote:

 
 
Well, duh.
 
Look, it would be realy nice to get answers to these questions instead of just speculation. I really like the Web Wiz Forum, and I need to get something started soon so I'd like to use v7.9, but we're all just totally clueless when it comes to the upgradability of v8.0. Can we use the same license key? You don't know. Is there a plan to allow database compatibility? You don't know.
 
Hobbyists looking for the latest, cool software that they can use for free don't care about compatibility or licensing, and so they can wait for these answers. But for us professionals supporting commerical sites that pay for our software, and must think six months down the road or we go hungry, these are crucial questions.
 
 
 
 
Hey Scratch, I'm in the same boat. I'm trying to build a suitable replacement for O'Reiley WebBoard 4.x and I've decided to go with WebWiz. Unfortunately for me, my need is urgent and I need to deploy something this week but I don't want to waste a bunch of time coding stuff that will be released in the new version.
 
My solution: I'm using a temp forum that is the basic installation. My 7000 users and 10 moderators will just have to deal with the limitations for now. Once the new version is released, I will create the new forum and use the member database from the temp forum. (Since it is a volatile religious forum, I will likely have a re-confirm of the user agreement but no need to re-register completely.) Once the new code is in place, I will make my modifications. Again, this is so I don't waste time. Based upon what I've read, the data access is going to be much different so I feel it's better to just wait.
 
My other solution was to either pick another forum or simply modify this one.
 
RE: the license key, there is an assurance when purchasing the key/s that it includes lifetime upgrades.
]]> Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:06:19 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81098.html#81098 <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : If you purchase a license...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81074.html#81074 Author: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: 14641
Posted: 13 April 2005 at 6:28am

If you purchase a license key for version 4,5,6, or 7 it will work forversion 8 (version 4 was the fist version requiring a license key). If you upgrade you shouldn't even need to re-apply it.

Between minor versions (eg. 7.01, 7.5, etc) I keep the database the same.

On major updates, (eg. 7 to 8) I usually make major changes to theforums engine and to add new features, to support this database changes haveto be made.

I will look into creating an ASP application that will update thedatabase, or if times an issue ask if someone else can look intocreating one. At the moment it's just a few tables that need alteringand for the SQL Server version, I'm planning on dropping almost all theold stored procedures and write new ones, this will make updgrading theStored Procedures simpler.

Because of time contents I have nothing to do with mods, which areusually written by 3rd parties, so some mods may work with the nextversion others will not. This would be something you would need tocheck for with the mod writer nearer the time.

However, I will when I get to a development stage with version 8 thatthe core parts are finished I will look into integrating some of themost popular mods into version 8.

Hope this answers everyone's questions on this subject.


Edited by -boRg- - 13 April 2005 at 6:34am]]> Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:28:00 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81074.html#81074 <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : Scratch wrote: dj air...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81059.html#81059 Author: sfd19
Subject: 14641
Posted: 12 April 2005 at 10:07pm

Originally posted by Scratch Scratch wrote:

 
Originally posted by dj air dj air wrote:

but for the actual upgrading its self

this depends on the ammount of differences and ease of changing, adding and deleteing certiain things are.
 
Well, duh.
 
Look, it would be realy nice to get answers to these questions instead of just speculation. 
 
But for us professionals supporting commerical sites that pay for our software, and must think six months down the road or we go hungry, these are crucial questions.
 
Look, what about simply reading Borgs update policies? Isn't that what professionals are supposed to do?
http://www.webwiz.net/purchase/order_select.asp?M=dev
 
 
 
Originally posted by Borg Borg wrote:

Free UpgradesAll link removal keys are available on a buy once upgrade forever policy.
Your link removal key(s) will work on the present version and all future minor and major updates.
 
Clear enough for professionals?
]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:07:23 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81059.html#81059 <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : Again, as for license, as djair...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81049.html#81049 Author: michael
Subject: 14641
Posted: 12 April 2005 at 7:57pm

Again, as for license, as djair said, it will have to be answered by borg. I realize that commercial applications need to plan in advance but at this stage the product is not even in beta so this may all depend on the final feature set in 8.0. If I look back at previous major version releases the licensing has never been an issue so I am sure Borg makes it as painless as he possibly can.
 
As for the upgrade, I am sure you will have to replace most files and there is no way for borg to guarantee that mods will work so just assume that they won't and check with the creater to provide an update if necessary. The database upgrade will be doable, I don't think there is a scenario where an upgrade script cannot be written so even if it does not come with the initial shipment of 8.0 I am sure one will be provided somehow.
]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:57:17 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81049.html#81049 <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : dj air wrote:im not sure how...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81045.html#81045 Author: Scratch
Subject: 14641
Posted: 12 April 2005 at 7:35pm

Originally posted by dj air dj air wrote:

im not sure how -boRg- is doing the liciencing

i think existing licence keys will work (will have to be confirmed by him)
 
Well, this is an important question. Is there a plan for existing license keys to work?
 
Originally posted by dj air dj air wrote:

but for the actual upgrading its self

this depends on the ammount of differences and ease of changing, adding and deleteing certiain things are.
 
Well, duh.
 
Look, it would be realy nice to get answers to these questions instead of just speculation. I really like the Web Wiz Forum, and I need to get something started soon so I'd like to use v7.9, but we're all just totally clueless when it comes to the upgradability of v8.0. Can we use the same license key? You don't know. Is there a plan to allow database compatibility? You don't know.
 
Hobbyists looking for the latest, cool software that they can use for free don't care about compatibility or licensing, and so they can wait for these answers. But for us professionals supporting commerical sites that pay for our software, and must think six months down the road or we go hungry, these are crucial questions.
 
 
 


Edited by Scratch - 12 April 2005 at 8:29pm]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:35:28 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81045.html#81045 <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : im not sure how -boRg- is doing...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81035.html#81035 Author: dj air
Subject: 14641
Posted: 12 April 2005 at 5:18pm

im not sure how -boRg- is doing the liciencing

i think existing licence keys will work (will have to be confirmed by him)


but for the actual upgrading its self

this depends on the ammount of differences and ease of changing, adding and deleteing certiain things are.

i hope to create a script for V7.9 SQL to V8.x SQL.. but this depends on ammount of time i have to do so
]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:18:39 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81035.html#81035 <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : dj air wrote:there will be...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81034.html#81034 Author: Scratch
Subject: 14641
Posted: 12 April 2005 at 5:15pm

Originally posted by dj air dj air wrote:

there will be quite a few changes to the database as new permssions for one thing will be changed.. more fields added to the forum table to hold the last posters details.
:
i had a access database file that upgraded theat but also a module added to the creation wizard for the SQL server that you select upgrade and it will upgrade iut for you
 
It's a little hazy understanding what you're trying to write, but can I assume that if I have a v7.9 running, that there will be a method to upgrade to v8.0?
 
Because I'm still looking for a clear statement on the upgrade development strategy for v8.0. It's important to those of us that want to purchase a license key for comerical use. Is there a design intent for database compatibility?
 
 
 
 
]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:15:16 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post81034.html#81034 <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : T- Man, please refer to the 2nd...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post80963.html#80963 Author: dj air
Subject: 14641
Posted: 11 April 2005 at 6:13pm

T- Man,
please refer to the 2nd line of the following topic

http://forums.webwiz.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=13860&PN=1

the release date is un known as time is the issue for developement
]]> Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:13:16 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post80963.html#80963 <![CDATA[Compatibility between 7.9 and 8.0? : When will v8 be available? ]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post80953.html#80953 Author: T-Man
Subject: 14641
Posted: 11 April 2005 at 3:25pm

When will v8 be available?]]> Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:25:36 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/compatibility-between-7-9-and-8-0_topic14641_post80953.html#80953