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   <title><![CDATA[forum get&#146;s slow when a lot users logged : Please read my posts i posted...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=2216">dj air</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14916<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03&nbsp;May&nbsp;2005 at 3:29pm<br /><br />Please read my posts i posted yerterday on moving from Access to SQL. i had performed one the other day on a clienbts Database..<br><br>it only had 18,000 posts but stuill..<br><br>the best way i found is mentioned there.. i used Access 2003 (i think a bug was fixed from Access XP to access 2003)<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[forum get&#146;s slow when a lot users logged : i wish i could move to sql but...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=18814">simon121</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14916<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03&nbsp;May&nbsp;2005 at 1:31pm<br /><br />i wish i could move to sql but i dont know how and i tryed the step by step guide u have but didnt succeed<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>always when i try to connect the sql on the server using the enterprise managet it tells me that the DB not found</DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[forum get&#146;s slow when a lot users logged :    wrote: 2900 members, 63000...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=6337">xeerex</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14916<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03&nbsp;May&nbsp;2005 at 10:38am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by " alt="Originally posted by " style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong> wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br><div>2900 members, 63000 posts, 8764 topics</div><div>the Database size is 70 MB</td></tr></table><br><br>Holy crap Batman! That is impressive and speaks well of -borg-'s code!<br></div><br>First, I agree with -borg- that you should move to SQL Server. It isfar more robust and scalable, and it was designed for high trafficserver-client environments.<br><br>However, if that is not an option I would start by doing the following:<br><br><ul>  <li>Clean up your forums by removing old/outdated/nonuseful posts. (Download a backup archive of the database first)<br>  </li>  <li>Close your forums, download the database, compact/repair through Access, reupload the database, open your forums.</li>  <li>Turn off the active users, etc, on your forum home page</li>  <li>Keep a good schedule of maintaining your database in this manner.</li></ul><u>Disclaimer:</u> <br><br>I run an Access powered forum with ~16k members, peaks of 80-150 activeusers (up to 6 hours at times), ~5k posts, and an uptime of 453 days(except a few server restarts).<br><br>Current database size: 15.61MB<br><br>I have purged members 3-4 times removing 4-5k members each time and follow the suggestions I posted above.<br><br><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by " alt="Originally posted by " style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong> wrote:</strong><br /><br />Access is a flat file database system</td></tr></table><br><br>Technically a "flat file database" is non relational and uses a singletable to store its information such a CSV files, etc. Access iscertainly a relational database, but its engine was not designed toscale in a server environment to the extent that SQL Server does (whichis very robust).<br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[forum get&#146;s slow when a lot users logged :  WOW!!!  I&amp;#039;m surprised...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=1">WebWiz-Bruce</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14916<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03&nbsp;May&nbsp;2005 at 9:23am<br /><br />WOW!!!<br><br>I'm surprised Access is still going.<br><br>MS Access was never designed as a web site backend database system,especially for something that uses as many database resources as a forum. <br><br>Access was designed as a desktop database system to store small amountsof data in that would only be accessed by a handful of users.<br><br>Access is a flat file database system and has allot of limitations including:-<br><ul>  <li>Often becomes corrupted</li>  <li>Only has a pool of 20 connections per web server, split between all sites</li>  <li>Size limitations</li>  <li>The entire database needs to be loaded into the web severs memory each time the database is connected</li></ul>These are just a few of the limitations, and in my personal opinion Iwouldn't use an Access database for a forum backend unless you only hada handful of users a day<br><br>You should look into moving to MS SQL Server as soon as possible as it doesn't have the limitations that Access has.<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by -boRg- - 03&nbsp;May&nbsp;2005 at 9:24am</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[forum get&#146;s slow when a lot users logged : im using v7.5 access 2900 members,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=18814">simon121</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14916<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03&nbsp;May&nbsp;2005 at 7:26am<br /><br />im using v7.5 access<DIV>2900 members, 63000 posts, 8764 topics</DIV><DIV>the Database size is 70 MB</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>how i can fix it? help me plz </DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=2216">dj air</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14916<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02&nbsp;May&nbsp;2005 at 6:39pm<br /><br />what version are you using?<br><br>if Access it maybe that, but also what size is th eforum, how many members, posts, topics etc.<br><br>also it can depend on your host and the load of the servers.<br><br>i see you have 63,000 posts.<br><br>are you running MSSQL version if not i would recommend moving to it.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://forums.webwiz.net/member_profile.asp?PF=18814">simon121</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 14916<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02&nbsp;May&nbsp;2005 at 8:36am<br /><br />i dont know why it happens<DIV>and its not a problem n the server</DIV><DIV>when there is 15-20 active users on my forum he gets very slow</DIV><DIV>why why? <IMG height=17 alt=Cry src="http://webwiz.net/wwf_forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle border="0"></DIV>]]>
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