Web Wiz Support and Community Forums : Online users and same IP problem https://forums.webwiz.net/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 10:12:23 +0000 Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:49:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.08 360 https://forums.webwiz.net/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=20833 <![CDATA[Web Wiz Support and Community Forums]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://forums.webwiz.net/ <![CDATA[Online users and same IP problem : Hey wiztex, I&#039;ve been dealing...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111822.html#111822 Author: dfrancis
Subject: 20833
Posted: 31 July 2006 at 12:49pm

Hey wiztex, I've been dealing with this issue too because my main customer (currently) has a large internal network and all of them come up as one user. If I look at the sessions, I could have 20 active sessions. 
 
My guess is you'll have to write something on your own to supplement the existing system. I've not done it (yet) because I was waiting for V8. 
]]> Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:49:41 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111822.html#111822 <![CDATA[Online users and same IP problem : I searched all forums. It must...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111821.html#111821 Author: wistex
Subject: 20833
Posted: 31 July 2006 at 12:35pm

I searched all forums.  It must be the older than 6 months thing and the fact that 750 posts on the topic are a bit much to wade through (although I did wade through 177 of them in the results I did get).  I was going to search "active users IP" to narrow my search, but it wouldn't let me use the word "IP" since it is too short. :(]]> Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:35:27 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111821.html#111821 <![CDATA[Online users and same IP problem : Try changing the default search...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111811.html#111811 Author: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: 20833
Posted: 31 July 2006 at 11:08am

Try changing the default search option to search posts older than 6 months, and also try searching the version 7 support forum.]]> Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:08:47 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111811.html#111811 <![CDATA[Online users and same IP problem : Can&#039;t we have it so that...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111805.html#111805 Author: wistex
Subject: 20833
Posted: 31 July 2006 at 10:06am

Can't we have it so that if two different users are logged on with the same IP at the same time, it at least shows both users logged on in the active users list?  Since they are logged in you can track their usage.  I can understand about not being able to track non-logged in users, but tracking logged in users shouldn't be a problem since the ASP script knows who is logged in and what they are viewing.

I have a similar problem where I am using Web Wiz Forums for a company's website in which employees will be logged in.  All the employees will have the same IP address.
 
How about doing something like this:
  1. If user is logged in and accesses a page, add them to the active user list with username and IP address recorded.
     
  2. If user is logged in and listed on the active user list already, update the older listing for the username (even if a different IP) to show the current location and timestamp.  (If they are logged in with the same username but a different IP, then they are probably using AOL or another ISP that changes their IP address while online.)
     
  3. If a user is not logged on, add them to the active users list as guest with their IP address recorded.
     
  4. When another guest accesses a page, see if that IP address is already listed in the active user list, and if so assume that they are the same user (even if not true, but there is no way to know otherwise).  Update the old entry for the Guest listing with the same IP address to show the current location and timestamp.
     
  5. If a guest and a logged in user both access the site from the same IP address, list both the guest and the logged in user(s) in the list as being active users.  (By following 1 thru 4 above, this happens automatically.)
That would probably work better because it would list all the logged in users, while making a best guess at how many non-logged in users there are.  It'd be a more accurate representation of who is online.
 
And even if two users are using the same computer, it still is more accurate since one had to log off before the other can use it, and as such, both users should be listed in the active user list (although the one who logged off will have an older timestamp and will roll of the list shortly just like any other user who logs off).
 
 
 
P.S. I searched the forum for "active users" and out of 18 pages of results, none talked about the issue.  Not sure why since I know this discussion has come up before.  Perhaps the discussions are too old to appear in the search?

Edited by wistex - 31 July 2006 at 10:10am]]> Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:06:34 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111805.html#111805 <![CDATA[Online users and same IP problem : If you do a search this has been...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111733.html#111733 Author: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: 20833
Posted: 29 July 2006 at 4:44pm

If you do a search this has been covered many times before with a lengthy description of how the active topics works and why it can never be 100% accurate given that HTTP is stateless protocol.]]> Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:44:12 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111733.html#111733 <![CDATA[Online users and same IP problem : boRg, won&#039;t you reply my...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111726.html#111726 Author: degergio
Subject: 20833
Posted: 29 July 2006 at 1:22pm

boRg, won't you reply my question? :(

]]> Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:22:15 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111726.html#111726 <![CDATA[Online users and same IP problem : hi all, In my country (Turkey)...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/online-users-and-same-ip-problem_topic20833_post111586.html#111586 Author: degergio
Subject: 20833
Posted: 27 July 2006 at 1:53am

hi all,
 In my country (Turkey) there are many internet cafe users and flatmates which use same internet connection (so same IP) to surf internet.
  My problem is with showing "online users".
 
When 2 users login to my forum from same IP, only one of them is being showed as "online members", but the other is also being showed as "online guests". WWF sees them as double entry and doesn't show both of them..
 
I have checked the functions/functions_common.asp and found that code and i think answer of my problem is hidden in here:
 
'Else check a logged in member is not a double entry
  ElseIf saryActiveUsers(1, intArrayPass) = lngLoggedInUserID 
AND saryActiveUsers(1, intArrayPass) <> 2 Then
   intActiveUsersDblArrayPos = intArrayPass
  End If
 Next
 
 
I really don't know what happens if i delete these codes or what to do to solve my problem..
I am looking forward to hear some bright ideas.
Thanks..
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