Web Wiz Support and Community Forums : Moving the forum https://forums.webwiz.net/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:49:19 +0000 Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:35:05 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.08 360 https://forums.webwiz.net/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=22041 <![CDATA[Web Wiz Support and Community Forums]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://forums.webwiz.net/ <![CDATA[Moving the forum : dpyers wrote:I&#039;d try the...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117983.html#117983 Author: jacobisrael
Subject: 22041
Posted: 06 December 2006 at 5:35am

Originally posted by dpyers dpyers wrote:

I'd try the app against the db first. In a 7.x version, I ran a db conversion twice but the db was ok... nothing deleted, just a bunch of error messages saying it couldn't create stuff - because it was already created.
Try running 8.04 wwf against the 8.04 db. nothing to lose !
 
This will probably be the stupidest question you've heard in two weeks, but is there any way at all to go backwards, back to 7.x?  It's clear from the tables that all the data is still there, and just difficult to extract.
 
 
]]> Wed, 06 Dec 2006 05:35:05 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117983.html#117983 <![CDATA[Moving the forum : It seems that all the data is...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117917.html#117917 Author: jacobisrael
Subject: 22041
Posted: 04 December 2006 at 7:25pm

It seems that all the data is still in the database, and that there is a way to restore SOME of it in xml.  But the large files just hang up and don't create the xml file.  Also, Enterprise Manager won't work on Godaddy because Godaddy doesn't permit direct access to the database, for security reasons.]]> Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:25:51 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117917.html#117917 <![CDATA[Moving the forum : Mikey wrote: SMR Group wrote: ...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117874.html#117874 Author: jacobisrael
Subject: 22041
Posted: 03 December 2006 at 11:02pm

Originally posted by Mikey Mikey wrote:

Originally posted by SMR Group SMR Group wrote:

Originally posted by jacobisrael jacobisrael wrote:

Godaddy confirmed that you can't back up the database on Godaddy, and they don't back up the server with the databases on it.

Can I just say that from a hosting point of view, that's ridiculous and a good reason to move.

Most people have backups of their HTML and graphic files on their own computer, it's the fluid data stored server-side that people forget to keep copies of.  It also tends to be mission critical data, so that's what Godaddy should be backing up.


Move hosts now!
 
Very true.  Godaddy has been so good in so many other areas that it just wasn't expected that they didn't back up the server [read: pc?] with the databases on it.  That seems to be a major flaw, since it ought to be pretty easy to back it up.  The sql program has an entry for "csv output" and "xml output", but it doesn't seem to be activated.  So, once Enterprise Manager is functional, it will be good for future backups, but it sure seems that this database is lost for good.  Yikes.  What a mess.  Any other ideas on how to salvage some part of it would be greatly appreciated, and thanks again for all the great and timely [almost ); ] inputs.
]]> Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:02:39 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117874.html#117874 <![CDATA[Moving the forum : SMR Group wrote: jacobisrael...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117869.html#117869 Author: Mikey
Subject: 22041
Posted: 03 December 2006 at 6:26pm

Originally posted by SMR Group SMR Group wrote:

Originally posted by jacobisrael jacobisrael wrote:

Godaddy confirmed that you can't back up the database on Godaddy, and they don't back up the server with the databases on it.

Can I just say that from a hosting point of view, that's ridiculous and a good reason to move.

Most people have backups of their HTML and graphic files on their own computer, it's the fluid data stored server-side that people forget to keep copies of.  It also tends to be mission critical data, so that's what Godaddy should be backing up.


Move hosts now!
]]> Sun, 03 Dec 2006 18:26:34 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117869.html#117869 <![CDATA[Moving the forum : jacobisrael wrote:Godaddy...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117865.html#117865 Author: SMR Group
Subject: 22041
Posted: 03 December 2006 at 5:56pm

Originally posted by jacobisrael jacobisrael wrote:

Godaddy confirmed that you can't back up the database on Godaddy, and they don't back up the server with the databases on it.

Can I just say that from a hosting point of view, that's ridiculous and a good reason to move.

Most people have backups of their HTML and graphic files on their own computer, it's the fluid data stored server-side that people forget to keep copies of.  It also tends to be mission critical data, so that's what Godaddy should be backing up.
]]> Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:56:40 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117865.html#117865 <![CDATA[Moving the forum : Just ran mssql_server_setup.asp...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117852.html#117852 Author: jacobisrael
Subject: 22041
Posted: 03 December 2006 at 5:40am

Just ran mssql_server_setup.asp again and this is what it produced.  And of course it still doesn't find the members or messages:
 
 
Error Creating the Table tblCategory
There is already an object named 'tblCategory' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblForum
There is already an object named 'tblForum' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblTopic
There is already an object named 'tblTopic' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblThread
There is already an object named 'tblThread' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblAuthor
There is already an object named 'tblAuthor' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblPMMessage
There is already an object named 'tblPMMessage' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblBuddyList
There is already an object named 'tblBuddyList' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblConfiguration
There is already an object named 'tblConfiguration' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblDateTimeFormat
There is already an object named 'tblDateTimeFormat' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblGroup
There is already an object named 'tblGroup' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblPoll
There is already an object named 'tblPoll' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblPollChoice
There is already an object named 'tblPollChoice' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblPollVote
There is already an object named 'tblPollVote' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblEmailNotify
There is already an object named 'tblEmailNotify' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblPermissions
There is already an object named 'tblPermissions' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblSession
There is already an object named 'tblSession' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblGuestName
There is already an object named 'tblGuestName' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblSmut
There is already an object named 'tblSmut' in the database.


Error Creating the Table tblBanList
There is already an object named 'tblBanList' in the database.


Error Creating one or more Indexs
There is already an index on table 'tblSession' named 'Session_ID'.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblAuthor and tblGroup tables
There is already an object named 'tblAuthor_FK00' in the database.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblForum and tblCategory tables
There is already an object named 'tblForum_FK00' in the database.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblPollChoice and tblPoll tables
There is already an object named 'tblPollChoice_FK00' in the database.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblBuddyList and tblAuthor tables
There is already an object named 'tblBuddyList_FK00' in the database.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblEmailNotify and tblAuthor tables
There is already an object named 'tblEmailNotify_FK00' in the database.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblPMMessage and tblAuthor tables
There is already an object named 'tblPMMessage_FK00' in the database.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblPermissions and tblForum tables
There is already an object named 'tblPermissions_FK00' in the database.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblTopic and tblForum tables
There is already an object named 'tblTopic_FK00' in the database.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblGuestName and tblThread tables
There is already an object named 'tblGuestName_FK00' in the database.


Error Creating the Relationship between the tblThread, tblTopic and tblAuthor tables
There is already an object named 'tblThread_FK00' in the database.


Error entering default values in the Table tblAuthor
Cannot insert duplicate key row in object 'tblAuthor' with unique index 'User_code'.

Cannot insert duplicate key row in object 'tblAuthor' with unique index 'User_code'.
SQL Server database is set up, but with Error!
]]> Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:40:48 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117852.html#117852 <![CDATA[Moving the forum : Thanks for all the great advice,...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117851.html#117851 Author: jacobisrael
Subject: 22041
Posted: 03 December 2006 at 5:31am

Thanks for all the great advice, especially this time of night.  Wish I'd asked for it before the database was blown.  Am installing Enterprise Manager right now--Godaddy confirmed that you can't back up the database on Godaddy, and they don't back up the server with the databases on it.  So hopefully, after what remains of the database is backed up, the 250,000 messages and 3,000 member data can somehow be restored.
 
It's encouraging, dpyers, that you were able to save some of it.  How much and what kind of expertise is required to fix it?


Edited by jacobisrael - 03 December 2006 at 6:13am]]> Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:31:29 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117851.html#117851 <![CDATA[Moving the forum : I&#039;d try the app against...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117847.html#117847 Author: dpyers
Subject: 22041
Posted: 03 December 2006 at 3:58am

I'd try the app against the db first. In a 7.x version, I ran a db conversion twice but the db was ok... nothing deleted, just a bunch of error messages saying it couldn't create stuff - because it was already created.
Try running 8.04 wwf against the 8.04 db. nothing to lose !

Edited by dpyers - 03 December 2006 at 3:58am]]> Sun, 03 Dec 2006 03:58:03 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117847.html#117847 <![CDATA[Moving the forum : I&#039;m afraid not. I almost...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117846.html#117846 Author: iSec
Subject: 22041
Posted: 03 December 2006 at 3:43am

I'm afraid not. I almost cried when I lost about 50,000 posts and 1000 members last year.
If you're good with ASP you can retreive your data and apply it on a new database. Don't get rid of what you have now. Back it up... use a backup tool like Enterprise Manager and back it up on your local machine.
]]> Sun, 03 Dec 2006 03:43:30 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117846.html#117846 <![CDATA[Moving the forum : Well, just spoke with tech support...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117845.html#117845 Author: jacobisrael
Subject: 22041
Posted: 03 December 2006 at 3:40am

Well, just spoke with tech support at Godaddy, and they do have backups of the regular part of the web site, but the sql database is on a different server which they don't back up.  oops.  I'm worried that we've lost all this data, a year's worth of posts and membership info?  Is that the case?  Is there no way to fix this data base as it is?]]> Sun, 03 Dec 2006 03:40:31 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/moving-the-forum_topic22041_post117845.html#117845