Web Wiz Support and Community Forums : A Search Robot that uses Netscape? https://forums.webwiz.net/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 06 Apr 2026 17:28:59 +0000 Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:24:05 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.08 360 https://forums.webwiz.net/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=7623 <![CDATA[Web Wiz Support and Community Forums]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://forums.webwiz.net/ <![CDATA[A Search Robot that uses Netscape? : Okay, sounds great! Next question: Very...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post40025.html#40025 Author: wistex
Subject: 7623
Posted: 06 December 2003 at 8:24pm

Okay, sounds great!

Next question:

Very shortly, we will be offering web hosting and some of our customers may use Web Wiz Forums.  If they do, how do we prevent the application level arrays from mixing with each other?  I know this was a problem with a certain website because of the way they set things up.

We are using IIS 6.0 on a Windows 2003 Server.

]]> Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:24:05 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post40025.html#40025 <![CDATA[A Search Robot that uses Netscape? : In my opionion application level...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post39645.html#39645 Author: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: 7623
Posted: 04 December 2003 at 2:26am

In my opionion application level variables may still be better, as1000's of users reading and updating the same database table will bequite a database hit, with the delay of connecting to the database,retuning the database across the network etc.

With an application level array there isn't the database hits whichwould be around 3 or more per user for each page to keep active usersup-to-date.

Although an array stored at application level will be using memory allthe time even with 1000's of users this would never be more than a fewhundred kb of server memory and you gain performance as you don't havethe delay of database connections which do use up allot of serverresources.

Someone did some tests with the new application active users comparedwith the old database way on SQL server and came back saying that theirtests found that the forum ran at 60% faster now with the applicationlevel active users.
]]> Thu, 04 Dec 2003 02:26:46 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post39645.html#39645 <![CDATA[A Search Robot that uses Netscape? : This software is really good....]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post39627.html#39627 Author: Gullanian
Subject: 7623
Posted: 03 December 2003 at 7:09pm

This software is really good.  By thousands of simultaneous users, he means on at the same time.  I have never ever seen a forum with thousands of users on at the same time, infact I know of very few sites which have thousands on the entire site at the same time.  Using WWF will be suited fantasticaly for its purpose, if for some reason you do have thousands of users on simultaneously, youll probably come accross a lot of the same problems with other forum software.]]> Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:09:13 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post39627.html#39627 <![CDATA[A Search Robot that uses Netscape? : We plan on and are working very...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post39624.html#39624 Author: wistex
Subject: 7623
Posted: 03 December 2003 at 6:44pm

We plan on and are working very fast to get thousands of similtaneous users.  We have lots of interesting things in the works that will make our traffic huge.  Some of those things will cause traffic surges during certain large events we will be involved in. (I can't say more until we lauch certain things, but let's just say when we do our traffic will be huge.)

Also, we made it so that Active Users is tracked site-wide instead of just in the the forum area, so Active Users get hit many times as people go through the site.  You may have noticed we created a universal login on our website that allows people to login from anywhere and have tied our newsletter subscriptions to member accounts and the forums.  Everything is totally 100% integrated.

Considering the volume of traffic we are anticipating, do you still suggest we go with 7.6 and the application level variables?

]]> Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:44:53 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post39624.html#39624 <![CDATA[A Search Robot that uses Netscape? : The active usesr in 7.6 use...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post38911.html#38911 Author: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: 7623
Posted: 30 November 2003 at 8:37am

The active usesr in 7.6 use application level verables, not session verables.

Instead of using more server resources it actually uses less by using an array stored at application level.

This increases performance as it means there is upto 7 less queries runon the database per page, meaning reduced database updates, reducedrecordsets, reduces objects used.

Unless your forum has many 1000's of users online at the same time the application levelarray is never going to use to much server memory and as this is sharedwith all users it is much better then session variables.


Edited by -boRg-]]> Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:37:08 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post38911.html#38911 <![CDATA[A Search Robot that uses Netscape? : I can&#039;t upgrade to 7.6. You&#039;ve...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post38809.html#38809 Author: wistex
Subject: 7623
Posted: 29 November 2003 at 12:53pm

I can't upgrade to 7.6.  You've used session variables to count active users and we don't want to go that route.  I'm worried about the memory it will take as we grow. 

I will download 7.6 and update the appropriate code though.

Besides, it is time our version diverged from your version anyway.  We are going to need to heavily customize our forum and trying to keep our mods and your upgrades in sync is going to be a pain.  Most upgrades will overwrite the mods we plan, so upgrading becomes a nightmare.

When you come out with an update, we'll probably just apply changes you made as if it were a mod.  Overwriting files will not be an option by the time we are done.

Don't get me wrong.  Your forum software is great.  We just intend on doing things that were not intended to be done and that an average site would never need.

BTW, I finally scraped up a few bucks and will be buying a license soon.  Another satisified paying customer.

 

]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:53:26 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post38809.html#38809 <![CDATA[A Search Robot that uses Netscape? : Upgrade to 7.6 as the active users...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post38308.html#38308 Author: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: 7623
Posted: 27 November 2003 at 4:10am

Upgrade to 7.6 as the active users and browser/OS detection has been updated.]]> Thu, 27 Nov 2003 04:10:37 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post38308.html#38308 <![CDATA[A Search Robot that uses Netscape? : No it is probably the Netscape...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post38177.html#38177 Author: huwnet
Subject: 7623
Posted: 26 November 2003 at 12:05pm

No it is probably the Netscape searchbot or a third party searchbot that pretends to use netscape.]]> Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:05:50 +0000 https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post38177.html#38177 <![CDATA[A Search Robot that uses Netscape? : Here&#039;s something interesting: Guest...]]> https://forums.webwiz.net/a-search-robot-that-uses-netscape_topic7623_post38167.html#38167 Author: wistex
Subject: 7623
Posted: 26 November 2003 at 11:16am

Here's something interesting:

Guest 3 26 Nov 2003 at 11:56am26 Nov 2003 at 12:04pm8 minutesSearch RobotNetscape 4

According to Web Wiz Forums 7.51a, some Search Bots use Netscape!

This must be a mistake, right?

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