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how many members is good enough for moving on to SQL server.......
wat i want to know is that though it is well known that access supports small database sizes with fewer DB calls but exactly how much members & how many daily/simultaneoul hits R  gud enough to move onto SQL ????


This has been discussed to no end here. In general with 15 or more concurrent connections, you should move to Access. Number of members nor database size is as important as the concurrent connections. Now, the larger the database size, the slower it will run as Access is not as fast in indexing as SQL Server.

There are exceptions to the rules. Here are the stats from my largest forum, which runs on Access.

We have 14143 Forum Members
Avg New Members per day: 45.02 (excluding today)
New Members today (so far): 6 | Yesterday: 12
# of Members Visiting Site Today: 96 (excluding new members)
Launch Date of Site: February 4th, 2004 (314 days of operation)
We have 4173 Posts in 748 Topics in 21 Forum(s)

At peak times, I will have between 80-200 active users. Most of the time, I average around 15-20.
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Hey GUYSS :(

I can't give check mark to the "Delete rows"  its just disabled,
 
ANY IDEAS??

I am using a shared database on other server
 
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Originally posted by netmasterjohn netmasterjohn wrote:

Follow my second post, ignore the first step by step. The stuff that causes the "ADODB.Recordset error '800a0cb3'" is eliminated by following the steps in my second post. It is simply a matter of how the tables and stored procedures are created, doing things the way I did it the first time tries to do too many things at once and the Recordset can't handle it.

Doing things the second way works great.

Check out my site for proof.

http://www.epcmedic.com
 
Good job!!!
I did locally and works great..No problems with post or pm...(..I don't know for the rest features because i haven't checked yet)
 
Just for your info...Migration from 7.01 Access to 7.9 SQL
 
However .... how I will put this online to my web SQL Server????
 
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Well, this is my third day on this and it is getting very frustrating.

I've tried both method described on this thread. The first imports all the data correctly but then, there is this recordset error and it is impossible to post on the new forum.

With the other method I get errors all over the place while importing the tables, this is one example :


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The simplest way I have found, but requires MS SQL Server and Access installed on your local machine and a second SQL Server at your web host, is:-
  1. Create the database a blank SQL Server database at your web host
  2. Run the 'msSQL_server_setup.asp' file to create the database tables, Stored Procedure's etc. on your SQL Server database at your web host
  3. Use Enterprise Manager to delete ALL the newly created tables on the SQL Server database created at your web host, just leaving the Stored Procedures.
  4. Now on your local machine open your original Access database in Access
    1. From the Tools menu in Access, select the 'Upsize Wizard'
    2. Choose the Upsize option to 'Create a new database'
    3. Choose 'local as your SQL Server and 'Use Trusted Connection'
    4. Next select ALL the tables to upsize
    5. Leave all other options as default
  5. Once your database tables have been upsized using this method, use the 'Export Tool' in Enterprise Manager to upload the tables to the SQL Server database at your web host which you created the Stored Procedures in earlier
  6. That should be it
This is the only method that I have found so far that works for me.

I did look into witting an ASP application that could transfer files across, but the problem is that the primary key for many tables is an Auto number, which means if there are any deleted posts, topics, members, etc. it would screw up the transfer process.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ozoyo2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 January 2005 at 4:43am
Thanks Borg, I will try that straight away. I will install the SQL server trial and do that locally.

I was thinking as well that the deleted topics, members etc might be part of the problem.
I was about to try cleaning up the table and resync the whole forum but that would mean loosing post stats and getting stoned to death by my forum members.Dead

Thanks for everything Borg, I'll keep you informed!
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Darn !

It was looking good but the posts are not here ...
http://82.195.144.38/forum/default.asp

I think the Thread table is not copied correctly.

Can the fact of copying a locked forum be a problem?
At this stage all suggestions are welcome.Cry
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Right, I have been strugling for more than two weeks with that conversion...

Borg, it still does not work with the local upsize method. I get the usual Recordset error :

ADODB.Recordset error '800a0cb3'

Current Recordset does not support updating. This may be a limitation of the provider, or of the selected locktype.

/forum/post_message.asp, line 746

The only lead I have now is to try to check and repair keys and relashionship manually.

As matter of fact, I have created two databases a blank database (as it is once it is created ith the mssql setup ASP file) and the one with the imported data. When I compare, I can see that the one with the imported data does not have all the keys and relationship the blank one has.
 
Should I try to recreate those manually after the data is imported or is it a waste of time ?
 
I am upgrading from 7.01 Access to 7.9 Sql. Are the two versions of DB different, should I try to upgrade from 7.01 Access to 7.9 Access first ?
 
Thank you
 
 
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