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WebWiz-Bruce
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Posted: 15 June 2006 at 8:36am |
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I use AVG Network edition on my servers and the SOHO version on workstations and find it excellent, especially as without it I get over 300 virus each day.
I do occasionaly see a virus in emails, but this is usually when a new virus comes out and I get it in an email before the anti-virus vendors get a chance to update their databases with the new virus definition.
To be honest though any computer savey person who keeps their PC up-to-date with the latest security patches should never need a virus scanner as they should know NOT to click on attachments within emails or download illegal files.
I often have to fix computers for friend etc. that get infected with viruses and spyware again, and again, and is always because they always disable auto-updates, and install file sharing software and download illegal files.
If people install file sharing software to get pirate software and music then I have no sympathy for them when they phone every few months complaining their computer is not working again.
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Tegwin
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Posted: 15 June 2006 at 9:18pm |
-boRg- wrote:
I use AVG Network edition on my servers and the SOHO version on workstations and find it excellent, especially as without it I get over 300 virus each day.
I do occasionaly see a virus in emails, but this is usually when a new virus comes out and I get it in an email before the anti-virus vendors get a chance to update their databases with the new virus definition.
To be honest though any computer savey person who keeps their PC up-to-date with the latest security patches should never need a virus scanner as they should know NOT to click on attachments within emails or download illegal files.
I often have to fix computers for friend etc. that get infected with viruses and spyware again, and again, and is always because they always disable auto-updates, and install file sharing software and download illegal files.
If people install file sharing software to get pirate software and music then I have no sympathy for them when they phone every few months complaining their computer is not working again.
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I agree with you borg this is how I make my living now. There are so many people who download music/movies etc and get infected all the time. If I am to look at most of my customers machines they have been infected with viruses of some sort or another. But hey, whos complaining.... keeps me gainfully employed.
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dfrancis
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Posted: 15 June 2006 at 9:39pm |
I'll chime in on this. I use and HATE Norton. Oh it works just fine but it is so bloated that I can't stand it. I am going to recover my main PC and not reinstall it.
I've used AVG on my dedicated servers (network edition) and the free version on my wife's home computer. I have had great results with it and will likely install the soho version on this once it's back up.
Firewall. I recently took a new office and cable broadband. I needed a router so a friend told me about ZoneAlarm as a temporary solution until my router came in. I had no idea how active the ports were before but on cable I was getting slammed constantly. ZoneAlarm catches everything. Once I received my Linksys BEFSX41 and from the very minute I plugged it in, ZoneAlarm confirmed that I was safe. Warning about the BEFSX41, upgrading the firmware was a pain in the arse (that's a bad thing borg), but is doable.
I've decided that once I receive my Microsoft Action Pack (yea), I'm reformatting my hard drive, and installing stuff one by one. I will NOT be putting Norton on, nor will I be putting ZoneAlarm back on. Windows XP pro, office 2003 pro, sql 2003 developer and a number of my favorites is all I'm putting back on this. AVG soho and the hardware firewall is what I've decided to go with.
Oh... and MS Defender? No way, I've been so disappointed with that even though it has caught a few spyware that others have missed. I may reinstall Spybot-S&D carefully to watch and block common spyware... that one is powerful though so be careful.
Enough about me... what do you guys think? Is this a good plan?
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Tegwin
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Posted: 16 June 2006 at 12:17am |
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You dont really need to have a software firewall as well as Hardware, but they do seem to work well together and both have their pros and cons. Here is an interesting article on them. http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.com/webmaster/article.php/3103431
I used to use ZA years ago, but now I dont use them anymore. They had a number of problems a while ago and used to be really aweful, think they got better now. I tried out a product called Outpost Firewall Pro, which seems to be very good. At one stage they were rated better than ZA.
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Posted: 16 June 2006 at 12:46am |
I guess I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy. I use a hardware firewall, a dmz, and a software firewall  The software firewall gets hit by packets that make it through the hardware firewall and dmz about once ever 12-18 months. Zonealarm has some deal with ether linksys of netgear so it interacts with the some of their routers/firewall's firmware. Supposed to be pretty slick. Never used outpost, but they have a good rep. Security software competitors tend to play leapfrog a lot. so at any given point in time, one may be better than anothers current release. Next release, it could change. I think the best thing is to read current and past reviews on cnet and pcmag. Usually for the past three years, the highest rated will switch back and forth between two or three vendors. Picking any one of them is a good idea. Norton's a good product, despite the bloat. The firewall is relatively trim, but the AV and AS is heavy. Still, it's usually one of the top rated for features and for effectiveness. Effectiveness is what it's all about. That being said, it'll be a cold day in hell before I use them again
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Scotty32
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Posted: 16 June 2006 at 10:10am |
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i think its that Norton Personal Security thing that courses problems for someone i know
they couldnt receive emails (in outlook express) and i tried everyfin, spent ages, turns out it was stupid norton blocking its access to the net, and when i tried to put outlook on the allowed list it would lock up and crash, though if i DID get thru and tell it to allow outlook, it'd just ignore me and continue to block it - stupid thing
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Posted: 16 June 2006 at 1:34pm |
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One of the tricks to using Norton is to turn off virus checking for outgoing emails. Out-of-the-box it checks email and attachments going out. Turning that off and turning off virus checking on file access seems to fix a lot of Norton problems.
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Posted: 16 June 2006 at 3:05pm |
nothing better then NOD32
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