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    Posted: 12 August 2006 at 6:14pm
It just occured to me that the only difference between a blog and a forum is the presentation and a couple key features (RSS, pings, etc.).
 
So I started playing around and realized that it would be very simple to have WWF operate both forum-like and blog-like sections.  The blog-like sections could also serve as a simple article manager if you issue articles on a semi-regular basis, but are not as concerned about the order that they appear in. (You could always create a separate page that did a SQL query and ordered your articles how you want them, or modify how WWF ordered the articles.)
 
The main differences between a forum and a blog:
  • Forum posts would be in current WWF format, and blog posts would have the first post styled differently to distinguish that it is the blog post (or article) that everyone should be commenting on (i.e. the first post in a thread would look different that the replies).
  • Forum areas typically would allow people to start new topics, whereas blogs typically only allow authorized people to start new topics, but allow anyone to comment on the post.
  • Terminology would be changed for forum and blog sections (or made to be neutral).  Example: in a forum, all posts are posts, whereas in a blog, the first post is a post, and the replies are called comments instead.
  • RSS feeds on WWF 8 list all new posts including replies, whereas in a blog, there are separate feeds for the blog posts (first post in a topic) and comments (replies to the initial post in a thread).
  • Trackback and/or pingback are supported in blogs, but not supported in forums.
  • Forum posts are typically ordered based on the last reply, whereas a blog is typically ordered by the date of the blog post, regardless of when the last reply was.

Other than that, WWF could easily be converted to a forum/blog engine simply by changing the appearance of certain pages.  When I started to play with the idea, I was amazed at how simple it was! (I'll reveal how to do it once I am satisfied with it.  Most of the changes were made in forum_posts.asp, leaving almost everything else intact.)

Borg, You may want to consider adding blog capabilities to the forum (i.e. allow certain sections to be a blog, with blog-like styling and terminology).  I think it would be a great feature.
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I have added this into the 'todo' list so that I can have a look into this when I have more time, but it is certainly a good idea.
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I've been working on it for weeks.
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Originally posted by -boRg- -boRg- wrote:

I have added this into the 'todo' list so that I can have a look into this when I have more time, but it is certainly a good idea.
 
This is really a  good news!
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I'm glad you like it.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about:

 
The article that you see on that page is actually the first post in a forum thread!
 
Basically I created article_posts.asp by modifying forum_posts.asp so that the first post looks different than the replies.  I then set up WWF so that for non-forum categories (articles and blogs) use article_posts.asp instead of forum_posts.asp.
 
I'm going to do more tweaking, but this small demonstration shows how easy it is to implement it.


Edited by wistex - 13 August 2006 at 3:59am
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nice job wistex!
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wistex,

Great idea - I too have been thinking about this as a possible solution to a requirement for Blogs and News items (articles to you I think)

My questions to you is with the MOD you're working on
    - Have you considered META information for articles e.g. publishFrom, publishTo and audience or key word
    - My thought is to record the meta information in the RSS output, and then use the RSS to build a news listing with a link to the full 'article', thus avoiding the database hit each time the news listing page is loaded.

Many thanks
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mikey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 August 2006 at 9:56pm
I am looking forward to how this pans out, i have been using Webwiz to deliver the front page news before but it took a substantial amount of fiddling and was very basic.

Thumbs up and keep up the good work!
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