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    Posted: 29 December 2003 at 11:19am
I am running WebWiz on a Windows 2000 server with IIS, but it seems that I cannot login to with IE, says cookie issue even if I have the browser setup to accept all cookies.  I have deleted the temporary Internet file cache as well as all cookies but have the same issue.  I can login to this webwisforums.com site though.  Is there a certain option I need configure on IIS? 
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There are several reasons why cookies don't always work with browsers, the main reasons are things like URL and IP masking or using frames, these types of things prevent browsers settings and reading cookies correctly.
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The past two weeks or so, I've been visiting a lot of WWG sites. I see this happen quite frequently (once every day or two)- but only when visiting WWG forum sites (ver 7.51/7.6).

When it happens, it only seems to happen on my 2nd visit to the site - AFAIK. The login returns a message saying there's a cookie problem regardless of how open the cookie and the zone settings for the site are at. Only way I've found to clear the problem is to clear out all cookies and the cache which wipes my settings for every other site on the internet. Once I've cleared the cache and gotten new cookies, the problem doesn't return for that site.

Don't know what's causing it, but I don't think it's a browser problem as I only see a problem with cookies on a wwg site. Either the cookies not being written fully/properly, or there's some path out of the verification logic that's defaulting to bad cookie.

BTW - I tend to favor the theory that the cookie isn't being written properly. I can verify that cookie for the site exists, and open up the access to my cookies yet still get the error.



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I have cleared out my cache and cookies, but it still happens.  Only with IE6.x sp1 though.  I have tried IE 5.5 and it works, also Mozilla and it works.  It has never done this on this site but my webwiz forum site it does.  I am wondering if it is a IIS setting somewhere.  I have made sure I have setup the site as trusted and accept all cookies, but it still will not allow me to login.
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The cookies are witten using ASP using the repsonse object so there isn't really another way to do it, so they are written correctly.

Other browsers seem to handle cookies correctly, but for some reason IE always seems to suffer from cookies problems and not just for Web Wiz Forums.

As it looks like Microsoft are stopping making the standalone version of IE and as there are many browsers like Mozilla that are far supperior to IE hopfully the problem will disappear as people stop using IE. Either that or MS might actually sort out all the problems with IE and cookies with a SP release.
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MS will probably just have to sort it out.  More and more websites are being programmed to be geared for IE since MS is gaining more and more momemtum every day.
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MS's IE is actully losing ground to browsers like Mozilla, it looks like IE has had it's hay day, and no-longer will web masters beable to just code for IE.
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Borg, I agree that IE has problems and that there's much better browsers. Half of the argument is that this only happens with IE6 browsers. The other half is that this is only happening with WWG sites. Regardless of where fault lies, waiting for IE to lose market dominance is not a solution for people who can't use the forum.

A cookie does get written. I've found and deleted them. I don't know if it's a complete or an incomplete cookie. Cookies can be incomplete because of browser problems and also because the response buffer didn't get flushed as expected.

The cookie itself could be complete, but contain some conditional data that's not expected.

If it happens again, I'll post the cookie.


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