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Posted: 12 January 2006 at 1:02am |
Borg,
Wonderful job on 8.0 beta 1. However, there are some minor issues and some things (simple) I would like to see added.
First off, I think the ads (both of them) is a terrible idea. I know you're trying to make up for your time with money, but I know of very few forums that have ads on them. Please rethink your decision on ads as it discourages me (and I'm sure others) from using your software.
I would be happy with a small AD at the bottom by the footer, or perhaps a "donate to forum creator" button that goes to your website. I think those two methods would be less annoying then the Google ads.
Another thing, this would make it hard to implement it directly into the a website. I think this is a bad idea.. I hope you think it over.
Next, can we please show the users IP address in the "active users"? I've done this myself, but I think it'd be a good little feature. Of course, only administrators and moderators can see this.
*Edit AGAIN*
I have some sections that are guests are able to post in. I've noticed, well, realized by doing this it opens a whole new world of spam. My forums have been SPAMMED like CRAZY (over 5 posts per a day) with unreadable links. They even were posting AFTER I shut down my forum. My request is, can you provide CAPTCHA to pages that allows guest to post? If you haven't already, I have not gotten that far yet. 
Thirdly, after you run mssql_server_setup.asp you should be able to set a username and password for default administrator. A lot of people are too lazy to change it, so I think this would be a benefit. Yes, this applies to me 
Fourth, I've noticed some errors in the admin page. For one here are my server specs (dedicated server):
Microsoft SQL 2005 Enterprise Edition
Microsoft Windows 2003 Standard Edition (SP1, IIS6)
In the admin page, when you click "SQL DB Statistics" it causes an error:
Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80040e57'
Arithmetic overflow error converting int to data type numeric.
/admin_sql_server_db_stats.asp, line 24 When I clicked "Group Permissions" (I think) it caused a error on line 255 with the "ubound". However, this error disappeared so I guess it was a database glitch (happens).** Edit
I found the error:
Group Permissions->Edit Member Permissions
You will get:
Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d'
Type mismatch: 'UBound'
/admin_group_permissions.asp, line 255
I currently have nothing setup (clean install).
I don't know if you fixed the issues with the polls, but I just wanted to check to see if you changed it to it stored the username of the person who voted on a poll rather then storing it in a cookie. There were some issues with previous versions, I can't remember what version, though.
Finally, in database_configuration.asp you wrote "SQL 2006".. supposed to be SQL 2005.. hehe.
Thank you for providing us with a great opportunity to test WebWiz v8.
Edited by mack - 12 January 2006 at 1:12am
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Posted: 12 January 2006 at 3:35am |
Found more bugs. First, when you delete a user it says "Return to discussion" (not exact wording) two times. Second, big issues with sending mail. My mailserver (works perfectly on older versions of WebWiz) reports: The server rejected one or more recipient addresses. The server response was: 550 Relaying not allowed
It seems as though (to me) that something is wrong with the sending code (and not my server). My first guess would be that you either forgot to specify the user (or it's blank) to send to.. I'm looking at a live log on my mail server, and I'm seeing: R: HELO
S: Hello
R: MAIL FROM <NoReply@atmyhost.com>
S: 250 NoReply@atmyhost.com... sender OK
R: QUIT
S: 221 goodbye
SMTPD: Connection Closed
(S=Send, R=Receive)
I'm not seeing where the mail is being sent too.. it's just saying quit, and ending there. I'll leave that one up to you Borg. And FINALLY, I promise, I realized when you select "CDOSys", the page will refresh, and automatically select CDONTS. This is probably a simple if-statement bug or something. Again, I'll leave it to you Borg (I appologize, I would help in fixing this but I quit VBScript ). I promise I'll stop 
Edited by mack - 12 January 2006 at 3:37am
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Posted: 12 January 2006 at 11:32am |
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I know the ads are not popular but they do make having a free version viable.
It's a choice of either having ads on the free version or only have paid versions, and I think the more popular choice would be to have ads, and you can always buy the paid version to remove the ads.
Since ads where introduced last October the amount of people using Web Wiz Forums has increased, instead of going down.
I like some of your ideas, particularly the use of CAPTCHA images for Guest posting and will look at developing some of those ideas.
The SQL stats page only seems to work with SQL 2000 so will probably be dropped altogether in the final version.
Many of the UBound errors are known and clear up once the database gets populated.
The main server errors you have seem strange as the actual way mail is sent has not changed from version 7, could be a setting with your SMTP server?
Edited by -boRg- - 12 January 2006 at 11:44am
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Posted: 12 January 2006 at 5:09pm |
 -boRg- wrote:
I know the ads are not popular but they do make having a free version viable.
It's a choice of either having ads on the free version or only have paid versions, and I think the more popular choice would be to have ads, and you can always buy the paid version to remove the ads.
Since ads where introduced last October the amount of people using Web Wiz Forums has increased, instead of going down.
I like some of your ideas, particularly the use of CAPTCHA images for Guest posting and will look at developing some of those ideas.
The SQL stats page only seems to work with SQL 2000 so will probably be dropped altogether in the final version.
Many of the UBound errors are known and clear up once the database gets populated.
The main server errors you have seem strange as the actual way mail is sent has not changed from version 7, could be a setting with your SMTP server?
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I'm pretty sure I had to change some code, I just can't remember exactly what I did. I am checking into this right now. Edit: I might of found the issue. I placed a "Response.Write strMailServerPass" in random spots of the code and received NOTHING. Perhaps the password isn't be sent? Even after manually entering my password, the same thing happens. I'll post an update if I fix it. .. I fixed it. It just randomly started working. Lovely, huh? Anyway, have you tried googling on how you can get SQL2k5 server info? Or perhaps remove the line of code that's causing the error?
Edited by mack - 12 January 2006 at 5:49pm
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Posted: 12 January 2006 at 10:54pm |
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Since skins are no longer compatible with old versions of WebWiz, can we get a new forum for V8 skins?
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Posted: 13 January 2006 at 1:35pm |
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Sounds like the mail server issue was to do with the application level variables not updating with the details, I'll look into a fix for this.
The SQL Stats file was written by someone else and doesn't actually do anything of any importance at all, so probably will be simpler to drop then spending a week trying to get it to work, when that time could be spent coding things that actually do something.
Skins will be lookd into in the next few days
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