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    Posted: 10 February 2004 at 5:46pm

Hi there,

I really like all the ASP and ASP.NET sites/ applications that I see and use on the net. Now I want to really learn how to code them. I bought a ASP book called ASP made simple. i think it floored as i follow it to the exact letter and the scripts always work to one point then fail - blah sorry thats a different story.

Any Question: Is it better to learn ASP or ASP.NET as that seems to be the future does it not?

I saw all those links in the beginers section - anyone suggest some real life books or anything like that. Also I got a copy of UltraDev 4 by macromedia dreamweaver i heard that is cool for working with.... is this so???

 

Thanks for any advice you can offer.

David,

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ASP.NET is definitely the future... ASP will be outdated in 3 or 4 years... any code that you write with dreamweaver ultradev is always very choppy and impossible to edit manually... IMHO you should just learn how to do asp manually if your interested in doing that type of thing
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A company I'm working at has been told by MS that they will stop supporting asp in 2005. Of course that doesn't mean it will go away, but it may not be runnable in some future version of windows server.

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Well ASP is simpler to learn and much ASP code can be read in ASP.NET pages.

And here is something I put together about ASP that hopefully might help somehow.

You and others can have access to a database hosted on the Web from any location that has a browser with an Internet connection.

The Web database concept makes sense if you and your people want to do work in various locations in or outside the office and still be "plugged" in.

For example you could have employees enter timesheets or have sales reps log their contacts.  Or perhaps you'd like customers to be able to check the status of their orders online without having to call the company.

If you want a Web database, typically what would happen is that a database such as Access or MySQL (basically just consisting of tables) would be put on the Web.

Then "dynamic" Web pages (actually ASP pages which include VBScript, HTML, and/or JavaScript) would be created acting like the old desktop database's queries, forms, and reports to access the database - all hosted on a Web Server.

Dynamic Web pages are similar in many ways to regular HTML pages.  But they are "live" because the user can read from and write to information in the database.  An example where you can login and add, edit, or view fictional customers and invoices is at http://www.bullschmidt.com/login.asp

Not all Web hosts will handle dynamic Web pages but many do.  The Web hosts that can handle ASP pages usually have a Windows 2000 or Windows 2003 operating system running an IIS Web server.

Here are a few good ASP sites:
o ASP101 Samples - http://www.asp101.com/samples
o W3Schools ASP Tutorial - http://www.w3schools.com/asp
o Microsoft VBScript Language Reference - http://msdn.microsoft.com/scripting/default.htm?/scripting/V BScript/doc/vbscripttoc.htm

And the following newsgroup is good:
microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general

Or for a "quick and dirty" generic ASP open source solution to putting databases on the Web that just requires setting up a configuration page for each table or query and uploading the database to the Web as long as there is an autonumber field in each table (and you'll probably also separately want to create login capabilities), perhaps try something like this:
GenericDB by Eli Robillard
http://www.genericdb.com and then click on the Tips link to see an example

J. Paul Schmidt, Freelance ASP Web Developer
www.Bullschmidt.com
Classic ASP Design Tips, ASP Web Database Sample (Freely Downloadable)
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ASP.NET is a LOT more powerful than ASP. In ASP.NET you can upload files with pure ASP.NET no crappy thrid party components or FSO. Thats just one example of what you can't do in ASP without COM's, there are tonnes more.
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and, its much more stable and faster..
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noticeably faster.. not none of this "MS says it's faster" crap

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Originally posted by pmormr pmormr wrote:

noticeably faster.. not none of this "MS says it's faster" crap

lol

BTW... Good post BullSchmidt. Gonna bookmark that one for newbie reference.


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