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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 August 2003 at 10:33am

or you could just redirect them to the frameset with the code i gave you already...

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
if (parent.location.href == self.location.href) {
window.location.href = 'index.html';
}
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 August 2003 at 10:43pm

Sorry KC, wasn't my intention to suggest the global.asa solution was better... just different.

The global.asa solution only needs to be done once. The javascript needs to be placed in each page in question.

The global.asa solution won't work if session cookies are turned off. The javascript one won't work if the uses has js turned off.

IMHO, more people will have session cookies turned off than javascript, but that's just my hunch.

If it's important to you, do both to cover your bases. Some people will have both turned off, but the hell with them.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 August 2003 at 12:20am

Thanx guys, ya really helped me out.

Am (relatively) new to web design, and unfortunately I only have few technical skills. Never really been a true administrator or programmer, but do have broad IT knowledge. Unfortunately for now, not on a technical but knowledge on a management level.

Originally posted by dpyers dpyers wrote:

If it's important to you, do both to cover your bases. Some people will have both turned off, but the hell with them.

Bout needed client settings, such as cookies enabled, I'll use my "common denominator policy". Meaning, designing the sight for the most used browser (IE) with the mostly used settings. If some things will work in other browsers (and other settings), that's nice but not perse needed. Or in other words, always use the standard and if this means losing (a few) visitors cause they don't have the appropriate browser or client settings, that's a shame but so be it.
Just as easy to put some comments on preferred or needed client settings on the start page and/or pages such as "Tech Info" or "Navigation Tips". Bugger those who don't comply to the standard.

Thankx again KC & dpy

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 August 2003 at 12:53am

Although IE is the most used browser, a wise man would never refer to it as a standard. To do so on Usenet will ensure that your house is burned down and your loved ones enslaved. Suspicion will be cast upon your lineage.

The movement in web design is browser neutral - accept anything the user has and develop pages that will render to the users style sheet setting rather than the designers preference. Pages need to be viewed by blind Cro-Magnons with 30 year old text only browsers and speech readers. No java script, no flash presentations.

IE is generally loathed for being very non-standard in terms of meeting current w3c specifications for html and css. The fact that usage of other browsers that come closer to those standards is pitifully small is immaterial. Do not mention that sites that conform to strict html and css specifications and use tables for tabular data, not for formatting all look depressingly similar.

Finally, never... ever... put "Best viewed in..." information on your page lest it be found and published in a usenet group as an example of poor design.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 August 2003 at 1:23am

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'IE = standard'. Just meant to say that most people use IE, not that it's better, or closer to what's really meant. Am also aware that Linux is becoming more-popular, and with it (perhaps?) at some time in the future also more popularity for non-MS browsers.

I would not argue that MS browsers are better than others, au contraire my friend. From a technical point of few, as well as from a 'purists' point of phieeuw, non-MS browsers come a lot closer to what a browser is meant to be. Used to be a Netscape adept myself, have worked on several UX-machines (IBM, HP) with of course Netscape as (integrated) browser. Have also had various Linux-versions at home, although I hardly use these machines anymore.

Will spend some effort to try and be as platform/browser-independant as possible, but on the other hand I don't want to rewrite code with every new upgrade (okay, bit x-gerated but you get the point) of major browsers. Therefore as little 'browser-dependant' routines, techniques, code, etcetera ... I don't expect to get a lot of visit from UX-boxes, or rather to say don't expect much traffic from non-MS browsers. Simply a fun sight with mainly personal intrests, some trivia and some serious stuff.

First prio is that everything works okay in IE, if with not too much trouble it also works in other browsers .... that's fine. But won't spend a lot of time on this since that's just not needed for this particular sight. Would be different of course if I had a sight meant for IT-topics, especially with non-MS topics or content.

Time spent trying to be browser-independant, or rewriting lots of code is better spent filling the sight with actual content. At present I'm figuring out which "framework/basic design" I need, to fill and maintain my sight with as minimal an effort as possible.

Simple as that

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 August 2003 at 10:46am

Originally posted by dpyers dpyers wrote:

Sorry KC, wasn't my intention to suggest the global.asa solution was better... just different.

No problem. I was just suggesting that he could use the 'simple solution' without getting too involved with global.asa and everyting...

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