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    Posted: 31 March 2008 at 11:00pm
If you use FrontPage, the file browser used for uploads or adding images will always show a _vti_cnf subdirectory. That's just for FrontPage's internal use, and will be confusing for users (particularly as it contains images with the same filenames as its parent directory, but of zero size).
 
To hide the _vti_cnf subdirectory, change line 339 of RTE_file_browser.asp:
    If NOT objFSOsubFolder.Name = "temp" Then
to become:
    If NOT objFSOsubFolder.Name = "temp" AND NOT objFSOsubFolder.Name = "_vti_cnf" Then
 
As you can see, RTE is already hiding subdirectories called "temp", so hiding "_vti_cnf" too sounds like something that could usefully be included in the next version. Especially since people still using classic ASP are pretty likely to still be using the equally classic FrontPageWink.
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FrontPage Extensions course all sorts of havoc and should be avoided on the same site as Web Wiz Forums.

If you have FrontPage Extensions enabled then the only way you should place files on the server is through FrontPage otherwise it can mess up FrontPage permissions.

If you have FrontPage enabled on the same site as Web Wiz Forums is on you should disable the upload features of Web Wiz Forums to prevent issues with FrontPage Permissions.
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Thanks Bruce. Uploads work fine so far, and we only ever publish using FPSE. As far as I can tell, FPSE automatically creates the necessary hidden directories when new users' uploads directories are created.
 
I know your opinion of FPSE from other posts, and there are definitely others that share it. Conversely, there are plenty of people who find FPSE really useful. Keeping the permissions simple means you never need to touch them after creating a site. I've not had a single problem in over 10 years. Most of the bad reputation seems to have been caused by early versions, back in the last millennium. By 2002 the problems were sorted out, and indeed there hasn't needed to be a new major version since then.
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From a web hosts point of view thankfully less than 2% of users use FrontPage Extensions as they course no end of problems and are a real headache. So much so that 2 months ago we stopped advertising that FromtPage Extensions are actually supported on our servers as it costs to much time trying to support them.
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Originally posted by stevek_mcc stevek_mcc wrote:

Thanks Bruce. Uploads work fine so far, and we only ever publish using FPSE. As far as I can tell, FPSE automatically creates the necessary hidden directories when new users' uploads directories are created.
 
I know your opinion of FPSE from other posts, and there are definitely others that share it. Conversely, there are plenty of people who find FPSE really useful. Keeping the permissions simple means you never need to touch them after creating a site. I've not had a single problem in over 10 years. Most of the bad reputation seems to have been caused by early versions, back in the last millennium. By 2002 the problems were sorted out, and indeed there hasn't needed to be a new major version since then.


Luckily, that's been my personal experience, too. FP did suck up until about 2002 or so. I find 2003 to be very stable and reliable. It's caused me no issues for several years. It even deals with styles and has better standards support.
I can understand Bruce's concerns, however, as well, I'm an IT person for the State of Iowa (USA) and FP extensions are a pain to deal with on the server side. From a user standpoint, I'd say, what's the big deal. Then I go to work and deal with them, and I can see both sides.
I've had great luck with FP on our 8.06 forums on our old/current host, no permissions issues, nothing wrong at all. HOWEVER, I now have a server setup at home, so will compromise......... I'm going to use FrontPage for my own server at home, make all my changes and tweaks there, then use FTP to copy the changes to the new host - yup, WebWiz hosting. So I have it both ways and Bruce and crew don't have to deal with FP extensions.
But since I started my own personal sites, and my wife's business site back in the late 90's, I've used FrontPage with little issue, and must say since 2003, literally no issues.
Then I go to work and see our own web servers and remind myself - there's another side to this all..................

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Created the http://www.fizell.org website 7 years ago on my desktop with FP2000 and since then upgraded to FP2003.  Never saw a _vti_cnf file or folder outside of FP files.  Last year I installed FP2003 on my laptop to make changes to the site while on vacation, uploading the changes to the server with Cute ftp. 

I've no idea how but every Laptop Document folder has _vti_cnf folders.  It has not affected the computer's operation as far as I can determine but does take up much space.  If I remember correctly I did spend time deleting the folders and files but they have returned. 

I'd try Steve's RTE fix (above) but don't know how to access the Rich text editor. Appreciate any advice.


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I beleive that on the server these files are normally set with the hidden attribute so you don't see them. However, if you use an FTP to download and upload these directories they often loose the hidden attribute.
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By the way version 10 will hide the '_vti_cnf' sub folder when viewing uploaded files and images
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