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Blade- 
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 Posted: 28 March 2003 at 2:33am |
If Linux ever challenges Microsoft for dominance in anything software-related, they will simply drop their prices. I will agree with you vdub, some of what they charge is outrageous, but they arent even close to the worst out there. I was looking into purchasing 3d Studio Max 5.0 recently until I saw the price on it - $3500. Now that's crazy, especially when I can pirate it for absolutely free. Pirating, may I add, is also part of the reason for the high price in software. Everyone wants software for free, never paying a penny for anything. Look at what happened to Napster? It was the biggest and best thing to ever hit the 'net until they were forced to start charging a very minimal fee to download songs. Now they are in bankruptcy court because users wouldnt pay $2.99 a month.
People are cheap - that's part of the reason they use Linux in the first place - it's free. However Microsoft is here to stay, no matter what you, me, or even supreme court justices have to say about it. There are way too many absolutely brilliant programmers, cunning lawyers, and cut-throat businessmen employed by that company to ever see another company rival them.
Damn I got off course, didnt i? haha
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Posted: 28 March 2003 at 7:44am |
Linux ist the No.2 Server Operating System behind Windows NT, it never ever outran Windows yet. It did that only counting web servers but not servers in general. why RedHat will probably not grow as fast, smaller software companies that make almost 47% of the Home user Software Marketshare are hesitant to develop software for Linux, therefore it will take time for Linux to have a Software base attractive to the normal home user.
Linix a.k.a. Unix is older then windows yes, but in the beginning (I don't know how old you are so if you remember) it was a pain to use. So nothing for Johnny Normal. Even MS DOS back then was easier to use, this is why Microsoft outgrew Linux in the Desktop market, now they are holding 95% of the Desktop Marketshare and you are telling me that is changing soon, I doubt it. Don't get me wrong, I would love for a competitor to get into MS' rank, because competition makes stuff better. But it will take a long time before somebody will be able to stand up next to Microsoft.
You remark about CPU license, well it is a tough subject, it actually comes cheaper in some cases but I agree in a lot of cases it helped out see web hosting. Nevertheless compare SQL Server to Oracle and on a Server with 8 CPU's:
Oracle 9i Enterprise SQL 2000Enterprise Ed.
$320,000 $159,992
$480,000 $159,992 'Using Data Mining
Now the Standard Editions
$120,000 $39,992
There you see comparing to just the main competitor it is much "cheaper". Hey I know, it is a lot of cash and yes it ptobably should be cheaper but hey, everybody is doing it and I think MS is just being attacked so much cause it is Microsoft.
To your last point though....
If you can prove me that you can install Microsoft SQL Server 7 or 2000 onto a Linux Operating System (Not Windows for Linux). I buy you a year of Web Wiz Hosting.
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Posted: 28 March 2003 at 11:22am |
 vdub wrote:
ok that was rude.  |
I agree with you on that.
Bunce, you are an idiot. Shut up. You flame everyone.
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Posted: 28 March 2003 at 11:23am |
Is it possible to order or download a beta version SQL?
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Posted: 28 March 2003 at 3:46pm |
vdub,
you might be mistaken for MySQL Server, which is different from SQL Server. MySQL Server comes with redhat.
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Bunce
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Posted: 28 March 2003 at 4:27pm |
Look, we don't mean to be rude, but I suggest you do some research and try to understand the topics you are talking about before you make these overarching statements about software applications and platforms.
Hopefully these will start you off:
* SQL is not a database.
* NO programs act as SQL Server except SQL Server.
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Posted: 28 March 2003 at 4:27pm |
i think borg has said MySQL work very differently from SQL Server. He would have to re-write ENTIRE codes. So No, there's no plan for mysql from borg. You're completely out of luck with WWG stuffs if you don't have MS SQL or Access. 
But fortunately for you, there are equally big communities for ANYTHING you choose. For me, it really comes down to what is available for me (server-wise) 
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Posted: 28 March 2003 at 5:13pm |
OMG! You just don't get it do you.
Here's my 5 seconds of research that tells you what is widely known in the Database community.
SQL SERVER DOES NOT RUN ON ON LINUX:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/sysreqs/2000/default.asp
Its the FIRST thing I learnt when I sat the MS SSQL Server Administration course.
Could you now please stop harping on about something you are completely wrong about.
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