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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2003 at 1:05pm

i never paid for the software for my personal / learning use..

but for my business...i always have to purchase the software other wise the agents who come from the government to check in ur company that wether all softwares r legal or not would catch me..!!

HELL..would have bought windows server 2003 enterprise edition for $1500 USD.. and got ripped...

but wait.. bought the orignal msdn CD-ROM for $15 from a street shop..

that still is orignal and legal.. hehe


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2003 at 5:14am
Originally posted by the boss the boss wrote:

i never paid for the software for my personal / learning use..

but for my business...i always have to purchase the software other wise the agents who come from the government to check in ur company that wether all softwares r legal or not would catch me..!!

HELL..would have bought windows server 2003 enterprise edition for $1500 USD.. and got ripped...

but wait.. bought the orignal msdn CD-ROM for $15 from a street shop..

that still is orignal and legal.. hehe

I think it all comes down to fair use. In another thread, KC was debating charging richer clients more money for the same work. On some levels it is kind of sick, and on other levels quite fair.

e.g. If you are willing to let some runt kid use your software for free because you know he's not making money from it, and he's just playing around/learning, then that's probably a good thing.

I don't think that any of this applies to games though. Playing games is playing games, and if you do, you should pay for them. As for buying a $40,000 Oracle license... whatever. (And that's pretty cheap for Oracle...)

I only wish that I could pick up legal CDs of software for $15.00. Envy envy envy envy...

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2003 at 6:55am
Originally posted by Bluefrog Bluefrog wrote:

e.g. If you are willing to let some runt kid use your software for free because you know he's not making money from it, and he's just playing around/learning, then that's probably a good thing.

But who's to say if that kid will turn around and buy it WHEN he starts making money off of that software...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2003 at 2:15pm

Originally posted by KCWebMonkey KCWebMonkey wrote:

But who's to say if that kid will turn around and buy it WHEN he starts making money off of that software...

first, I want to replace WHEN by IF in the sentence.

the problem is that the price of the programs MUST be low enough and afforded... or it will be brought from Kazaa!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2003 at 9:40pm
Originally posted by KCWebMonkey KCWebMonkey wrote:

Originally posted by Bluefrog Bluefrog wrote:

e.g. If you are willing to let some runt kid use your software for free because you know he's not making money from it, and he's just playing around/learning, then that's probably a good thing.

But who's to say if that kid will turn around and buy it WHEN he starts making money off of that software...

True enough. And I don't think that this is a problem that is going to be solved easily.

zMaestro - I think you're right about making software affordable, but for a lot of software that is used to make money, it is very expensive to develop and you have to recoop those costs, and hence high prices often ranging into thousands of dollars. Other considerations might include licensing technologies like LZW for GIFs or other compression technologies (MPEG prices are really high... with an initial capital outlay of no less than $10,000).

For now, I think piracy and policing do a relatively good job of taking care of the situation. The police don't come into your house to search your computer, but they check offices - which is primarily where money is made. Unfortunately, this is still not ideal.

I like what Bruce has done here - "donation-ware". I've donated (and I hope others have as well), but I'd guess that Bruce hasn't been adequately compensated for his work. Kind of a catch-22.  

As for Kaaza, I think it's a great thing. I use it to distribute trial software and people download it. The only thing I have to do is keep some computers running. It's a very cheap way for publishers/developers to distribute software. CNet wants $80.00 now to list software there - that's just to have it listed - and CNet is such a mess now with so many titles that your results (or ROI) is dubious at best. After a week or so there are a ton more applications added and yours is way down the list where nobody will ever find it. Simtel lists for free and mirrors it even  - a much nicer situation there.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2003 at 12:01am

I also never pay for software for personal use.... I probably have about half a million or more worth of pirated software....

I don't buy from pirate stores neither, don't even know of one, but why buy it when you can download it for free??

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2003 at 1:23am

Even if it is for business... it must be affordable... I want to buy a webmail software for my server,the SmartMax installed is very very bad... i saw many good softwares, like the one gearhosts used.. but it is for $600 and more... if it was in range of $50-75. i would bought it....

Small Business needs another look too.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2003 at 1:30am
Originally posted by Bluefrog Bluefrog wrote:

 (MPEG prices are really high... with an initial capital outlay of no less than $10,000).

this 10,000 must be lowered too....

also $500 x 20 users = $10,000

the same as $1000 x 10 users = $10,000

also $10 x 1000 users = $10,000

I am sure if it is in range of $10, 10,000 users will bye it.

$10 x 10,000 = 100,000 (costs covered)

 

(am I good in arithmatics??)

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