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    Posted: 13 February 2006 at 3:25pm
I just noticed something very annoying today.  If you open a new window while logged into this site, you will NOT be logged on in the new window.  I assume that since you are not using cookies anymore, when I open a new browser window it thinks its a new session?

I am using FireFox 1.5 on Windows XP and WWF version 8.0 b2 alpha 2 that is running on this website currently.

Example scenario 1:
You are logged into WWF in one window.  You have Gmail open in another window.  You receive a new topic notification in Gmail and click on the link (so you go directly to the post instead of searching for it).  Result: you are still logged in on the old window, but in the new window you are not and you have to login again.

Example scenario 2:
You are logged into WWF in one window.  You click on a link that refers to another post on the same WWF site.  Result: you are still logged in on the old window, but in the new window you are not and you have to login again.

Something's screwy with the sessions.

I would prefer it you used sessions as a secondary measure if cookies are not enabled, not as the primary method of tracking logins.  Or use both together for additional security.  (i.e. its easy to spoof a cookie, but try spoofing a cookie and a session variable at the same time and guessing what the session variable and cookie should be.)
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I think you must have an issue with your browser or somthing as I do not have any of these issues as I have not had to re-log back ever, unless I log-off.

This is the order of the new tracking system

1. The new session system primarily uses cookies and the auto-login cookie used in the old system to track users, together with a session ID stored in the cookie for temp data session data such as forum order.

2. If you don't use the auto-login system it relies on a session ID stored in a cookie only.

3. If cookies are not working then the system relies on a session ID appended to the end of the URL.

For extra security for session data and tracking the first 2 parts of the users IP address are also matched with the session ID.

The only time I would expect to find the issues you are having is if cookies are disabled and therefore you are relying only on a session ID appended to the URL and moving to new pages can break this session ID.

Are you seeing a session ID appended to URL's in the forum?
If yes then cookies are not working in your browser

Also is the IP address of your browser changing?
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No, there is no session ID showing in the URL.  And I am using a connection with a dedicated external IP address and a dedicated internal IP address.

I also doesn't remember me even though I have auto-login set to on.  Not sure what the problem is.  I'll try it in IE and see what it does there.

I wonder if I am having memory issues.  Sometimes it acts strangely when I am low on memory.
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Does seem very strange and no-one else has reported these issues at the moment.

Maybe worth waiting to see if it is just some quirk with your PC.
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It could be.  I have a lot of stuff open right now and memory is low.  Firefox won't open any new windows when I reach a certain amount of memory in use.  IE just slows the system to a crawl with disk swapping when I use up all the physical RAM.  I'll try again later after I have a chance to reboot.  It very well could be a problem with this computer.
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I've lost the login a couple of times recently but just figured it was Borg doing stuff. Only noticed it when I woukd go to reply to a post and find no rte. 

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