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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2003 at 6:05am

I found this article, and others as well, but it looks like I can do it... it's just figuring out how now... I'm a bit stuck...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/e n-us/cpguide/html/cpconpackagingassemblyforcom.asp

Problem is... what do you do when you have assets that you can't afford to throw out, i.e. ASP code, but you want new functionality with RAD? i.e. .NET development...

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2003 at 8:00am

www.asp.net has some tutorials on migrating asp to asp.net.

Any system development effort has three factors pressuring it

  • cost
  • quality (read quality/functionality/reliability/performance, - all the stuff that makes it a "good" or "bad" app)
  • time

Typically, you get two out of three. (low cost but spend a lot of time to build quality; buy components to reduce time = high cost+good quality; low time developing plus low cost = low quality). Ideally you want to spend low time and low cost to get high quality. Asp.net's approach to this is through reuseablity.

The trick to migrating to new technology is not do it all at once, but concentrate on where you'll have impact upon your development process.

I've found it useful to think about how my app does things rather than what it does and run against cost-quality-time to see what I need to improve on. All apps perform certain functions. I evaluate those funtions for my particular app to see what can be done with new technology to mprove my development/maintenace of them.

For converting asp apps to asp.net, in general, things useful to look at are how security is handled, forms processing, input validation, email, data access, etc.. The code you put into improving one of these areas is generally pretty reuseable in other apps. Typically, these areas can be "cut out" of the app and placed into separate directory structures flagged as .net apps rather than as asp apps.

Some apps may have specific issues that could be done better to make maintenance easier - e. g. user updateable sections, multi-calendars, etc. When you look at your app, you'll be able to think of things that you could do to improve cost/quality/time for that specific app, and things that you could do within it that could be reusable.

Some parts of your asp app are just going to be solid. They don't change a lot, are complicated but work, have no performance issues, etc. My advice would be not to change them to asp.net. Doing so will have no impact on cost/quality/time to maintain your app or to develop new ones.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2003 at 1:07pm
No option for more then one :o I use both PHP and ASP, they are both powerful languages and they both have their ups and downs. I like them both about equally. PHP is nice because it is fast and has built in functions for everything, ASP has much better support for functions and classes then php (at least in my opinion), and PHP is also much easier and faster with databases then asp because of the way it executes its querries.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2003 at 1:08pm
PHP isn't faster then ASP.NET
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2003 at 8:37am
i use PHP, fastest way to connect to a database and it only
needs 1 line to get all the info
$q=mysql_query("SELECT * FROM ... WHERE") and of course the connection string to the database + mysql is fast and free and i pretty much hate mircosoft and all the stuff that comes with it like asp,windows,whatever i like it all open source
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2003 at 9:37am
I hate people who just say they hate everything of MS without a really good reason. I mean, how many blue screens do you REALLY get? In fact, Win XP and some other MS stuff (ASP.NET) is really good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2003 at 10:43am
Originally posted by cr*piecorn cr*piecorn wrote:

i use PHP, fastest way to connect to a database and it only
needs 1 line to get all the info
$q=mysql_query("SELECT * FROM ... WHERE") and of course the connection string to the database + mysql is fast and free and i pretty much hate mircosoft and all the stuff that comes with it like asp,windows,whatever i like it all open source


I agree that Open source is good. There are quite a lot of ASP applications that are Open Source as well not PHP. Microsoft is good, I agree with Diep, I just hate it when people sl*g off Microsoft for no good reason. If Linux was anywhere near as good as Windows it would have been the OS of choice of Businesses and individuals world wide!!!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2003 at 11:32am
almost every server runs a unix based OS linux/bsd/solaris/,... only the asp webservers use windows as their os and frankly they suck, some companies use windows because the employers are to "stupid" to use anything else.

There are quite a lot of ASP applications that are Open Source

a web application always has to be open source , how else can you change it to your needs
ps windows is closed source, and the virused for xp are countless just like the regkey's

but anyways, it has no point telling this to people who use mircosofts windows and havn't tried anything else
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