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Forum Name: Web Wiz Forums Suggestions
Forum Description: Do you have any ideas for applications or content on Web Wiz? Then leave your suggestions here.
URL: https://forums.webwiz.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=10028
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Topic: Develop
Posted By: vinoth
Subject: Develop
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 5:30am
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hai,
Good Work Guys, I joined a year before when i was a new to the forum and it required me an year to me get deeply in the field of developer.
Now My Suggestions is why not you develop the same forum in PHP/MY SQL , As We See there a lot forums now developing under the unix platforms, coz they are cheaper than windows.
Most of them use Forums Like PHPBB, IBP Etc .
My Suggestions is to develop the same Board under PHP, so that this forum can also be used by many using PHP.
I Hope My Suggestion May Be Considered And Steps may be taken in developing an new Board For PHP users too in world.
Thanx
Vinoth
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Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 9:15am
There are a lot of good PHP forums and very few good ASP forums. Why duplicate the efforts on yet another PHP board when you can have you one of the best ASP boards? Why not ask the PHP guys to develop and ASP version of their board? A lot of ASP hosts also provide PHP and MySQL so the choice is no longer between ASP and PHP, but between what is the best board for the project and how well can you integrate it into the overall web site.
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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 9:47am
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if a webdeveloper knows how to program in ASP using Access and MSSQL, it doesn't mean he knows how to do the same with PHP and MySQL
and it will take months, maybe years to do it, and I don't think Bruce have the time for that..
sorry, but it was a really bad idea
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Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 10:12am
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And I beleive he is making a step up to asp.net next.
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Posted By: vinoth
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 10:28am
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Well What i meant is developer in mean towards bussiness too,
we have good forums in php too , and in asp i think this is one, when have to find market we have to see the people choice too,
When U see towards hosting PHP is cheap and people rather get into it, and use the board which is compatible to their hosting.
So Better to win the game, why not try where there is a lot of hope for a great deals of bussiness.
I mean is Developing the forum in PHP Too,
It is just an Sugesstion
Vinoth
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 10:59am
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Having to maintain and debug two code bases is a horror show. As noted above, the PHP forum market is saturated. The ASP market is dominated by WWF.
Why put all the time and effort in to enter the PHP market where you're just one of the crowd when that same time and effort could ensure that you continue to dominate the ASP world?
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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 12:02pm
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vinoth wrote:
Well What i meant is developer in mean towards bussiness too,
we have good forums in php too , and in asp i think this is one, when have to find market we have to see the people choice too,
When U see towards hosting PHP is cheap and people rather get into it, and use the board which is compatible to their hosting.
So Better to win the game, why not try where there is a lot of hope for a great deals of bussiness.
I mean is Developing the forum in PHP Too,
It is just an Sugesstion
Vinoth |
Semikolon wrote:
if a webdeveloper knows how to program in ASP using Access and MSSQL, it doesn't mean he knows how to do the same with PHP and MySQL
and it will take months, maybe years to do it, and I don't think Bruce have the time for that..
sorry, but it was a really bad idea |
I'm not sure if you understood me:
Bruce is a good ASP programmer. He is not a PHP programmer. Bruce has developed this ASP forum over almost 3 years, do you think he could make it as good as this in PHP in under 3 years? And, as dpyers said, If he should continue developing of both versions, it would be hell alot of work. He don't have the time for it
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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 12:06pm
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after visited your site, I see you are not that kind of person who wants to spend money on hosting. Is that the reason why you want this in PHP? because you can't find proper free ASP hosts but good free PHP hosts?
if thatæ's the case, you should either give up on this ASP thing and move to PHP or pay the small money it costs to host your website with a professional host
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Posted By: vinoth
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 3:32pm
dpyers wrote:
Having to maintain and debug two code bases is a horror show. As noted above, the PHP forum market is saturated. The ASP market is dominated by WWF.
Why put all the time and effort in to enter the PHP market where you're just one of the crowd when that same time and effort could ensure that you continue to dominate the ASP world?
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I accept what dyper say at his first statement!
PHP Market is full of crowd , coz they are more people.
Asp market they are not so much people preferring coz it costs too much than asp.
Developing application PHP Can Stune the market with great results.
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The Best Way to Help Poor is not Becoming One of them!
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Posted By: vinoth
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 3:35pm
Semikolon wrote:
after visited your site, I see you are not that kind of person who wants to spend money on hosting. Is that the reason why you want this in PHP? because you can't find proper free ASP hosts but good free PHP hosts?
if thatæ's the case, you should either give up on this ASP thing and move to PHP or pay the small money it costs to host your website with a professional host
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No friend, I mean towards an good bussiness, I have site in PHP
These are mine :
http://www.go4i.net - http://www.go4i.net
I Like WWF , But only thing it stops me is an ASP Forum,
Developers need to think that people are shifting towards php rather than asp.
Vinoth
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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 4:20pm
the thing is, Bruce/Web Wiz/-boRg- has developed a great ASP forum,
he don't have time to make a PHP forum, I'm not sure if he even knows
PHP
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Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 4:28pm
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I disagree, developers need to be moving away from php and asp to asp.net IMHO.
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 5:26pm
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Mart wrote:
I disagree, developers need to be moving away from php and asp to asp.net IMHO. |
Agree with you on that one. There's coders and then there's developers. PHP and ASP are more like coder languages. Asp.net works better with organized developer methodologies. Would like to see the next version of PHP though. Looks like they're trying to make a response to asp.net and java.
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Posted By: vinoth
Date Posted: 18 April 2004 at 5:46am
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I agree to .net oriented but the only disadvantage is the windows platform is a bit costly when compared to unix.
that's why still the unix platform stands.
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Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 18 April 2004 at 6:38am
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Well apparently a unix compatible CLR is in development. But I don't think it will be as good as the windows one.
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 18 April 2004 at 9:52am
Well, Most cheap unix hosting seems to be in the $4-$8 per month range and cheap windows hosting is $5-$10 per month. Hardly a major difference.
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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 18 April 2004 at 11:29am
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You can't really compare it in the arena of those "cheap hosts" though. A real host I would use for a business where I make my living off would cost be probably around $100 or more a month on Windows. They take care of downtime i.e. by having a mirrorsite of your own and automatically switch over if server 1 goes down. Anyhow, in this arena of quality hosts, a Unix is like half the price nevertheless you always gotta pick what your technology is built on.
If you built houses in wood and are specialized in that and someone comes by and wants you to build a house in brick, you would tell him to check with a "brick constructor" right? A wood house builder would never be able to make a quality brick house the withstands that big bad wolf.
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 18 April 2004 at 1:24pm
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And we all know that sooner or later, the bb wolf will come. 
Seriously though, there's a cost-benefit sweet spot for every application. No one should be basing their living on a $10/month host. Parallel web, app, and db servers cost mucho dinero. How much you want/need to spend depends upon the level of risk you want to assume and the cost of downtime. As an example - instead of having an online real-time auto-switchable mirror, can you be down for 5-10 minutes to manually switch to a hot (pre-loaded spare?
Monthly system costs have jump points where getting to the next level of reliability, security, or recoverability requires a significant increase in cost over the existing jump point. There's llittle difference in cost between windows and unix (including Sun) solutions at any given jump point. My list of monthly cost jump points follows - YMMV.
- $5
- < $15
- $30
- $50-$125
- $500-$1000
- $5K
- $10K-$15K
- > $25K
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