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Topic: ASP or PHP?!
Posted By: Massman82
Subject: ASP or PHP?!
Date Posted: 14 March 2003 at 7:03pm

This is from someone who does not know either of the languages.

What is the difference between ASP and PHP? I know their two different languages but is there a speed difference? Why are there more PHP forums than ASP forums? It seems as if the PHP forums are generally more complex, with Web Wiz Forums being an exception. Why is this?

Questions from a newbie.




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Posted By: MorningZ
Date Posted: 14 March 2003 at 7:06pm
i'm not sure where you get
"Why are there more PHP forums than ASP forums?"

there's just as many ASP based ones out there as PHP, and i have already gone through no less than 10 forums based on the new ASP.NET language

Differences between ASP and PHP? see for yourself at sites like http://www.webmonkey.com - Web Monkey

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Posted By: zaboss
Date Posted: 17 March 2003 at 4:34am

Well, PHP has its roots in the Open Source community and, at least here in Europe, php & linux hold an important market share (for instance, in my country 75% of web pages are php driven). More or less the same percentage goes for most of the european countries (Germany, Norway, Sweeden etc).

On the other hand ASP being a Microsoft product is seen as a "restricted area", reserved to corporations etc... So, the number of developpers for ASp is slightly lower than php.

Which is better, which is faster? I dont' think you can compare them in these terms. Both are fast, reliable and secure if proper used.

PHP is more scalable in the way that you can host php pages on IIS and you only loose some 10-15% (with a complex site). But ASP on the Apache server... Let's say only that this is not the happiest combination.



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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 17 March 2003 at 5:53am

This may seem like a stupid question.....

Why do corporations go for the expensive option (ie Microsoft) rather than open source (ie Unix / php) ???

I am an asp developer working for a global software company currently using mainly MS technology, but I've been told to get up to speed on the open source stuff (part of a cost cutting initiative).

Would it be true to say that the MS way offers a lot more to us developers in the way of functionality, integration, ease of use, etc ???



Posted By: zaboss
Date Posted: 17 March 2003 at 6:16am

Well, I'm not so sure about the "expensivness" (sorry about this word, I'm not sure if it exists in English,, but I'm sure everybody understand what I mean). There is no "free" software if you call yourself a "pro". A professional version of Linux has a licence fee and it's not quite cheap! MySql also has licence fee a.s.o. Off course, you can develop your own Linux distribution. That would be indeed cost cutting in licence, but there will be a lot of additional costs that would make it not worth the effort.

"Would it be true to say that the MS way offers a lot more to us developers in the way of functionality, integration, ease of use, etc ???"

May be, or may be not. I'm myself a "Microsoft Solution Provider" (patent pending) so more familiar with MS products, but also living in a middle of php/linux developer world so I know few things about it. I'dd say that there is a better interoperability between MS solutions - originated from MS or elsewere - than Open Source's, and that could cause costly problems if you relay only on Open Source, but this could be just a personal impression.



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Posted By: serendipity
Date Posted: 10 July 2003 at 6:08pm
Wait, I thought Webwiz comes only in asp format - but in this thread URL it looks like it's php???


Posted By: zMaestro
Date Posted: 10 July 2003 at 6:14pm

remains the question: What is the difference between ASP and PHP?

ASP = Active Server Pages
PHP = Personal Home Pages

am i right?

ASP is much easier than PHP (may be my opinion).. but really PHP sucks



Posted By: zMaestro
Date Posted: 10 July 2003 at 6:18pm

btw... and this is not an ad.. i was sucked from php to the extent i registered a domain name http://www.egyPHP.com - www.egyPHP.com .. just to say....

lol

n.b. i am no fool

[with my respect to all php programmers ]



Posted By: Bunce
Date Posted: 11 July 2003 at 5:18am
Originally posted by zaboss zaboss wrote:

Well, PHP has its roots in the Open Source community and, at least here in Europe, php & linux hold an important market share (for instance, in my country 75% of web pages are php driven). More or less the same percentage goes for most of the european countries (Germany, Norway, Sweeden etc).

Love to know where you get this from?



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Posted By: zMaestro
Date Posted: 12 July 2003 at 3:42pm

there are some developers who add to ASP, PHP, etc... like http://www.geobytes.com - www.geobytes.com .. they added some ServerVariables to ASP... etc

does this mean ASP is open source?

Originally posted by Geobytes.com Geobytes.com wrote:

with ASP

<% City=Request.ServerVariables(“HTTP_GEOBYTESCITY”) %>

with PERL

$City=$ENV{HTTP_GEOBYTESCITY};

with PHP4

$City=$_SERVER["HTTP_GEOBYTESCITY"];

with PHP3

$City=$HTTP_SERVER_VARS["HTTP_GEOBYTESCITY"];

http://www.geobytes.com/CodeSamples.htm - http://www.geobytes.com/CodeSamples.htm

 

 



Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 13 July 2003 at 4:26am
You can write add-ons in vb6...


Posted By: Shamabaghodia
Date Posted: 23 July 2003 at 4:37pm

For those who talk trash about PHP, lets review the roots of each language...

ASP = Basic
PHP = PERL and C++

ASP is good for Microsoft servers, PHP is good for Unix servers and we all know how much better Microsoft servers are then Unix, hahahaha.



Posted By: stephen
Date Posted: 24 July 2003 at 10:56am

Why hasn't Bruce commented on this topic? I would like to hear his own point of view.

ASP any day for me. The question should be which is better

ASP.Net or PHP

I have just started learning ASP.Net and it is ten times better that PHP. It's just amazing the kind of functions ASP.Net offers.

 



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