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Topic: how to punish "net send" spammers.
Posted By: the boss
Subject: how to punish "net send" spammers.
Date Posted: 12 May 2004 at 6:02pm


note down the senders IP address..

use a sotware which lets u specify custom sender header so ur IP address will be hidden from the spammer, set the software on a pc 24/7 connected to internet and leave the software runing foreve sending the spammers unlimited messages via net send

i actually did that with someone now i think of him sitting and clicking the ok button on millions messages sent to him



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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 12 May 2004 at 6:12pm
just disable the messenger service and don't be bothered by those ppl in the first place.

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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 12 May 2004 at 6:21pm
but messing with spammers is fun  ofcourse the pc i use has got the messenger service disabled

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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 13 May 2004 at 9:36am
it's fun to spam too 

especially when people are playing a game on a LAN LOL


Posted By: BoLt
Date Posted: 13 May 2004 at 10:37am

To spam is to be a spammer it won’t stop them, in the long run they are making cash by doing it getting you to do something, purchase bitz and yes all the rest. Spammers are getting something out of it or they would not do it. Sending loads of mail spamming them will give them a bit of inconvenience but that is about it.

I wish that sending loads of mail to them back was a solution but unless all that get spam do it, it will not make a difference.



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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 13 May 2004 at 12:15pm
BoLt: we are not talking about email spammers, but windows message spammers 


Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 13 May 2004 at 3:15pm
The sad part of this whole conversation is that people who feel they have a mission in life to "punish" other people sooner or later wind up punishing the wrong person.

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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 13 May 2004 at 4:39pm

400 msg per second , the spammer would be crying



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Posted By: BoLt
Date Posted: 13 May 2004 at 5:08pm

Originally posted by Semikolon Semikolon wrote:

BoLt: we are not talking about email spammers, but windows message spammers 

Same thing but with a different flavor Spam is Spam whether it is in letter format, Phone, E-mail or net send.

Sorry but I don’t believe in kill for a kill kind of thing nothing personal.

May be think about it this way. If you know how to spam in this way, You also know how to stop it.

 

 

Go to the START menu, Select Run and type in services.msc and click OK.

Now a new window will appear with lots of "services" on the right hand side...

Scroll down and find the Messenger service, select it, right click it and choose properties

Under Startup Type select Manual. (or Disabled)

Then click the Stop button.

Then click the Apply button.

Then click the OK button.



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Posted By: zMaestro
Date Posted: 14 May 2004 at 11:04am

Originally posted by dpyers dpyers wrote:

The sad part of this whole conversation is that people who feel they have a mission in life to "punish" other people sooner or later wind up punishing the wrong person.

sometimes, it is nice to be the bad guy in the game... or we are supposed to be always the victims.



Posted By: BoLt
Date Posted: 14 May 2004 at 11:56am
Originally posted by zMaestro zMaestro wrote:

sometimes, it is nice to be the bad guy in the game... or we are supposed to be always the victims.

It only takes one mistake and the good guys get punished instead.



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Posted By: zMaestro
Date Posted: 14 May 2004 at 12:09pm

i think i was punished before.....

was it you the boss



Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 14 May 2004 at 3:02pm

When I was working for an ISP, we'd frequently get complaints that someone was bombing their email, messenger, or whatever. We'd shut the offender down, and put them on the webhost/isp blacklist.

Next day, we'd get a call from them explaining that they were just trying to get back at some spammer and didn't realize that the spammer was smarter than they were when it came to spoofing the source.

Didn't matter why they were spamming, the AUP for most ISP's says "you will not spam". It doesn't say "you will not spam except if someone spammed you first".



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Posted By: psycotik
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 2:50am
If people are smart enough to be able to spam using the windows messenger popup thing. I'm sure they're are smart enough to disable it on their machines first.


Posted By: Sxar
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 9:47am

Thats to say that the means justifies the ends.

People should not spam full stop, it just creates problems for everyone involved. Email has been hit hard and its almost impossible to have a Hotmail account that is not loaded with spam email. Now we could be doing something on our computers and all of the sudden we are hit with spam net send messages ( I know you can Disable Them). Where does it stop?

People need to stop spamming 'all together'. Thats my 2cents



Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 10:07am

Spam will never stop and can never stop. And it SHOULD NOT stop. What one person calls spam another calls email. BCE is a different story, but even then, the lines are blurry. If you send email from a company account, then that email is necessarily commercial, and if you send more than 1 email, is it then bulk?

I should be able to send a single email to somebody and have it delivered properly. This doesn't happen. Sending email is VERY difficult these days mostly in part to ISPs and the like all jumping on the "can spam" bandwagon. This is great if they can target those people or those "emails" properly, but they don't. The baby gets thrown out with the bath water.

It's the people who hijack othe computers for sending email that need to be punished, and punished severely. That is outright theft. Nail them for that, and NOT spam. Spam violations are minor. Send them to jail for theft - that's a better answer.

But 'retailating' against them is futile. You can't do it effectively because a single computer on a piddly little DSL or cable connection will make zero difference to them.

God spam is frustrating...

 



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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 10:08am
Oh, yeah, and the net send thing - little difference... same thing... You can't effectively punish them... blah blah...

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Posted By: pmormr
Date Posted: 15 May 2004 at 11:03pm

by punishing the spammers aren't you becoming the thing that you hated?



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Posted By: zMaestro
Date Posted: 16 May 2004 at 3:17am
Originally posted by pmormr pmormr wrote:

by punishing the spammers aren't you becoming the thing that you hated?

If law can not punish spammers, and you will not punish spammers, so who will?



Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 16 May 2004 at 11:45am

God. He will strike down the infidel spammers and roast them in a fury of IRC flames!

 



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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 16 May 2004 at 2:14pm
Don't feel that I'm put here to make people "Pay"

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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 17 May 2004 at 12:28pm
ha.... ha...

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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 17 May 2004 at 4:16pm

i still hope to see a headline on a news paper someday like this

"al-queeda spammer nabbed"



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Posted By: pmormr
Date Posted: 17 May 2004 at 5:45pm
ooh... for those of you following the never-ending-thread... i wonder if net send would work on my school's network.... hmmm

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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 18 May 2004 at 9:41am
net send works on our school network.. and our admin doesn't know how to disable it! I think I know more about windows than him........... 


Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 18 May 2004 at 11:07am
Doesn't work at mine, they have prevented you from using shell programs some how.


Posted By: BoLt
Date Posted: 18 May 2004 at 12:11pm

Originally posted by pmormr pmormr wrote:

ooh... for those of you following the never-ending-thread... i wonder if net send would work on my school's network.... hmmm

More than likely it will. I have a story on that about a kid that net send to all on the network including the headmaster and got banned from school (It was not me and I am not telling you what was posted).



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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 18 May 2004 at 12:30pm
Originally posted by BoLt BoLt wrote:

Originally posted by pmormr pmormr wrote:

ooh... for those of you following the never-ending-thread... i wonder if net send would work on my school's network.... hmmm

More than likely it will. I have a story on that about a kid that net send to all on the network including the headmaster and got banned from school (It was not me and I am not telling you what was posted).





was it you? what was posted?


Posted By: BoLt
Date Posted: 18 May 2004 at 6:16pm

No, I am innocent until proven guilty  I just hacked the computer teachers PC and played his games on it. He rewarded me with detention and getting me to show him how I did it.



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Posted By: aspdev
Date Posted: 19 May 2004 at 6:53am

Disable mssenger ion services at Install.  Then anyone who attempts to penetrate my fiewall more than three times and is not a random ping will find themselfs Under DDOS attack, SQL INjections, SUB7 Trojans, and lets not forget one of my favorites,  http://www.areyoufearless.com - www.areyoufearless.com software.  I dont play.  And yes it is fun the knock a server off line, especailly a big one.    I wake up at night dreaming of knocking the MWP server off line, and then leaving my trademark signiture behind.  HA HA!  Damm Yuppies!    I dont find any enjoyment being anonamous.  I want you to know it was me, it I go that far. 



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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 19 May 2004 at 1:29pm

this happened more than year and half ago..

a guy had a crush on girl. the girl came to know abt it through rumors and didnt like him, told him to f**k off and convicted him of harasssing her

later in the lab the same guy was playing with windows remote desktop when he accidently connected to the PC being used by that same girl working hard on her assestment, when she unexpectedly got knocked out due to remote desktop losing all her work....u can imagine her reaction

since she thought he did it on purpose our IT teacher banned the entry of that guy into computer lab execpt ONLY for his lesson.. he is not to come into lab during free time for what ever reason.. hehe

ohh and this guy was a dumbass hacker-wanna-be and always messed the lab computers so i even put logon hours restriction on his user account.. he could only login during his lesson timings and kicked out when logon hour expires



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Posted By: huwnet
Date Posted: 19 May 2004 at 1:35pm
Originally posted by the boss the boss wrote:

note down the senders IP address..


use a sotware which lets u specify custom sender header so ur IP address will be hidden from the spammer, set the software on a pc 24/7 connected to internet and leave the software runing foreve sending the spammers unlimited messages via net send


i actually did that with someone now i think of him sitting and clicking the ok button on millions messages sent to him





Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 19 May 2004 at 3:14pm
the problem with those net send msgs is that they dont go away even after a reboot.. and i think if u send them to a username instead to a computer name.. the msgs is stored on serve if the user is not logged into any machine and r delivered to the user once he log in from any terminal

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Posted By: pmormr
Date Posted: 19 May 2004 at 10:17pm
it is a real pain in the ass when net send spammers hit you... especially if there are as smart of some of you people... i'd be clicking OK for weeks

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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 20 May 2004 at 8:51am


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Posted By: WilliamC
Date Posted: 23 May 2004 at 6:14am
Why not just use a firewall and block that port?


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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 23 May 2004 at 11:13am
Like I said, is not necessary, just stop the Messenger service, which will be done automatically with xp SP2. There are better methods out there for Network Notification then the messenger service.

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