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Topic: Firefox spellchecker
Posted By: shovel
Subject: Firefox spellchecker
Date Posted: 11 July 2004 at 11:16am
Hello ~borg~!  Continuing to enjoy your most excellent WWG. 

There is a spellchecker for Firefox 0.9 called http://www.exchangecode.com/spellbound/ - Spellbound (author adapted it from the Mozilla browser spellchecker) that seems to work only on non-WYSIWYG editors.  I've really only tested it on the MozillaZine forums (where it works) and on WWG (where it doesn't ... except in the Subject text box).  I see that the author is "working on an HTML WYSIWYG editor for web forms that will use SpellBound" and I was wondering if you might consider implementing this ability for WWG?

In this regard there is also another Firefox extension that has the same drawback: Scribe.  It "adds Word Processor like functionality to web forms, including opening and saving form entries as files."  The opening and saving of form entries is the part that really interests me.  I'm guessing that the fix for the spellchecker might also do the same for Scribe?

Jim



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Posted By: steve
Date Posted: 15 July 2004 at 2:48pm
With Firefox being revised so often, I think it'd probably be wise to wait for an official release before adding features to a release of the forum.  I've been using Firefox almost exlusively and I do miss the spell checker feature.  Pretty small complaint compared to everything else that's so much better.


Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 15 July 2004 at 4:41pm
i agree with steve . best to wait . else it may need a lot of work if an update is required.

i also agree how good firefox is .. i used to use IE but then found firefox (because of this site)...

now i use it for everything . also in my applications i am thinking about it. and also the website is firefox conpatiable now


Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 15 July 2004 at 5:15pm
Well, I figured I'd have to wait one way or another ... after all, I'm always waiting on something!  

Yeah, Firefox is a pretty cool browser.  I've been playing around with it, adding extensions.  Basic geek stuff, you know!  1.0 will be worth the wait.  Of course, then there'll be 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc, etc, etc!!

Yep, always waiting!  :)

Jim


Posted By: gargoyle
Date Posted: 25 July 2004 at 9:18am
Hi,
 Just want say I have been using the Spellbound extension for awhile now and have found it to work in almost everything. 
Yes this forum and it textbox are one place it does not seem to work other then that I have no problem with.  In fact just a short while ago I up date the extension. 
As far as Firefox goes I have run into very few site that it did not work on for these few exception I have another extension which will open IE for me from Firefox.  
So people complain that its not like IE of course it not like IE,  it is another program just like anything other program.   Each program runs the way its developers think it should run.  Would you expect any two programs written by different companies to run the same?
Anyway if have not given Spellbound or FF a try give it a try but remember do not expect it to be IE.

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Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 3:33pm
Just to let y'all know.  I had written to Robert (the guy who made the Spellbound extension) asking him about this and he said he would look into it.  I just got this note from him:

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I just thought I would give you an update...I figured out
a way to get spellbound to work with wysiwyg editors...
Should work with most if not all of them when they are
embedded on a page. Hopefully it will be available within
the week.


Cheers,
Robert
--Edit ---
Cut the length of the text so it doesn't mess page layout



Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 3:56pm
Thanks for the update on that shovel. Lot of ff users here.

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 27 July 2004 at 4:13pm
I'll have to keep an eye on spellbound to see about putting a link in or something of that nature from this WYSIWYG Editor so that Firefox users can have a spell checker.

I know it is something I would like to use.


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Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 13 August 2004 at 1:49pm
Just got a reply back from Robert (spellbound author) with a link to a dev version of the FF .xpi file (after I asked him if I missed his update).  So far, so good!  :)  Jim

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It should auto update since the update rdf is set. I still have to update the language packs, do a couple more things with the extension itself, add libraries for SSE / SSE2 builds, and package the libraries for linux with proper permissions before I will release this officially but below is a link to the dev version that works with iframe WYSIWYG editors. I am unable to do the text decoration of misspelled words (e.g. underlining, etc.) due to it modifying the underlying html which would mess with the original content. Other than that it works with iframe WYSIWYG editors.

 
http://exchangecode.com/spellbound/downloads/spellbound-dev.xpi - http://exchangecode.com/spellbound/downloads/spellbound-dev. xpi



Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 17 August 2004 at 5:00pm
Another update for Spellbound

The new release is out that includes this feature. The extension should auto-update as well.

Cheers,
Robert
It updated fine for me through the extension manager.  It shows as Spellbound 0.6.0

Jim


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 August 2004 at 4:34am
Sounds good, I'll have to look into how to intergrate it into the RTE for Firefox.

One thing though with ieSpell it can be called using from a button using JavaSCript for the Editor, do you know or think the same can be done with the Spellbound extension?


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Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 22 August 2004 at 1:31pm
Originally posted by -boRg- -boRg- wrote:

Sounds good, I'll have to look into how to intergrate it into the RTE for Firefox.

One thing though with ieSpell it can be called using from a button using JavaSCript for the Editor, do you know or think the same can be done with the Spellbound extension?


From Robert:

I haven't had a chance to look into doing something like this yet but it probably can be done. I may have time to look into this in the future but currently I have a couple of other things I need to finish up with SpellBound like Mozilla Suite support. The only issue I can think of off the top of my head is that since it would be calling internal chrome there may be security issues around this that would require the user to allow the script to launch spellbound.

Jim


Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 22 August 2004 at 1:34pm
He just sent this info and link to me now:

BTW: There is an extension developer page now at http://spellbound.sourceforge.net/dev.html that shows the different ways to call up SpellBound which would help anyone trying to script against it.

I hope this might help.  :)

Jim


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 August 2004 at 3:19pm
Thanks Shovel, I'll have to look at the page and findout if it is possiable to add a spell check key to the RTE to launch Spellbound with.

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 01 September 2004 at 6:33pm
I'm still looking into using spellbound but as of yet I have not found away of being able to detect if spellbound is installed and launch it from a button on the RTE using JavaScript.

Do you have any ideas how it can be done?

Someway similar to how ieSpell is launched in IE would be ideal.


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Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 16 September 2004 at 2:54pm
Originally posted by -boRg- -boRg- wrote:

I'm still looking into using spellbound but as of yet I have not found away of being able to detect if spellbound is installed and launch it from a button on the RTE using JavaScript.

Do you have any ideas how it can be done?

Someway similar to how ieSpell is launched in IE would be ideal.


Hey boRg!

I've been a little disconnected lately from Hurricane Frances.  I've got some roof and ceiling and fence damage to repair after insurance adjusters make it by (I've made some temporary patches but they have to see it first).  This is the first time I've been on the forum since August 31.  We had power out for 10 days, and we've been staying at my mom's. 

I'll have to ask Robert to see if he has any ideas on this.  :)

Jim


Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 17 September 2004 at 2:38pm
-boRg-

I received a reply from Robert:

<<< To be able to do this security privs for XPConnect will have to be granted and because it is a dialog it needs to use nsIWindowWatcher...in other words, it isn't trivial. At this time I am adding support for the Mozilla Suite and Firefox Trunk which has consumed most of my time. I will try to take another look at being able to do this after I get the next release out but it may not be doable (at least without a significant effort) due to the security restrictions for accessing chrome.
 
Cheers,
Robert>>>


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 September 2004 at 6:43am
Thanks shovel, hopefully there will be someway to intergrate it, as it would be much better if it could be done the same way as ieSpell lanchaes in IE.

Hope you get you placed fixed up


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Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 29 November 2004 at 8:00pm
Hello ~borg~

Just got this from Robert from Spellbound.

Jim


I have just released the next version and it has support for spell checking via clicking an element on a web page. To get around the potential security issues all it does is listen for a click event and if the element has an id that starts with spellboundSC (it is case sensitive) it will launch spellbound using the last selected element as the element to spell check. After installing the latest release you can try the example located on the FAQ <http://spellbound.sourceforge.net/faq#q02> page . I am planning another release within the month so if there are some modifications that can be made I should be able to add them for that release.

Also, the next release should support checking multiple textarea, input, and rich text (e.g. midas) elements on the same web page.

Cheers,
Robert


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 30 November 2004 at 4:15am
Thanks shovel.

I've had a look at it and it looks like I can add it to a button element in the RTE.

I'll hopefully have it finshed by the end of today and I'll place a beta version on this forum. Big smile


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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 30 November 2004 at 7:21am
I've added a spell checker button into the RTE editor on this forum, so now if you click the spell check button it it will launch SpellBound in Mozilla, if it is installed.

If it is not installed a conformation box pops up inviting you to go to the SpellBound download page.

The only problem I have encountered is when the button is clicked SpellBound prevents any JavaScript from running that is connected to the button, so I can not set the focus on the message area.

This means that if the page focus is not set on the message area when the button is clicked nothing will happen.

This is not a big deal, but knowing the people who come to this site someone will complain.Wacko

It certainly makes it very simple to add the functionality to the button, so I'm sure this will make SpellBound much more popular.


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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 30 November 2004 at 7:47am
Seems to work fine - spell checked this post with it



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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 30 November 2004 at 9:52am
Worked fine in the form for me too -borg-.Clap

(only trouble I had was sourceforge's slowness kept throwing me install errors -- but i got it after the 5th try)





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Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 30 November 2004 at 1:38pm
Most excellent addition, I must say!  Big smile

Jim


Posted By: bruce
Date Posted: 13 December 2004 at 7:02am
That is very nice!  I've been searching for a spell checker for Firefox.

Now how do I get it on my forum?  Works great here!  Well done.


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 13 December 2004 at 7:28am
You don't need a button to run it, once installed, right click on the text area and choose 'Check Spelling', will launch it.

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Posted By: achecht
Date Posted: 03 June 2005 at 5:16pm
shovel,

Thanks for posting this info.  I was able to determine the method you used and ported launching SpellBound with a button to one of my web apps.

SpellBound's call method may change in future versions, but it works beautifully for now.

~achecht



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