What the Internet is lacking
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Topic: What the Internet is lacking
Posted By: Gullanian
Subject: What the Internet is lacking
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 8:37pm
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I think the Internet is lacking some decent archive. We have the
Way Back Machine, but this isn't really any good, it's slow, it's
buggy, uncategorised and theres no easy way to search old pages. It would be a shame to have such a huge wealth of data and no way of easily referencing it from previous years. I think the Internet is lacking some global archive, of properly organised data so it will not be lost for future years. A lot of information is being lost for a variety of reasons, not being able to pay hosting costs, accidental deletions, disk space running out, and a lot more. We could be loosing a lot of information. I think there is space for a properly organised pay archive. Important data is reviewed by various pannels and saved into the archive, then you pay to access it, with a small commission going to the source of the data to encourage data entry. Then, as the archive reaches substantial size, generations in the future can learn about what we knew and how we developed, socialy, economicaly, environmentaly, you name it. To me data on the Internet seems dangerously temporary and there is no central collection of information to provide a permament storage and reference for the future. |
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 9:35pm
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Google and some other search engines cache pages for some time after they've gone away - and haven't been replaced by new content. Don't know how long dead pages are kept though. Some things have a longer life than others. A few months ago I ran across some gopher and newsgroup stuff I had done in the 80's. didn't have a whole lot of relevance to anything now, though it was on some current technical topics then. I do know that the way-back machine at archive.org has been used to settle some copyright disputes - e.g. who did it first, but - IMHO - there's very few 10-year old sites that have much of anything that's still relevant. ------------- 
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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 08 August 2004 at 10:16pm
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Though it may be fun to see in a few years how sites, and content were displayed I think it would not really be worth it to archive the complete internet. I imagine from 10,000 web sites, only one actually contains fact data, the others just display, categorize or interpret the data differently. Not much of the actual fact data should get lost, thus the data, that is obsolete may. Back in the days, the problem was storage, should not be really the problem these days though. But to Gullaninas suggestion, having it as a payed service would not fly either. If only 1% would pay for it, you could be more then lucky so again you would have a big hole. ------------- http://baumannphoto.com" rel="nofollow - Blog | http://mpgtracker.com" rel="nofollow - MPG Tracker |
Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 09 August 2004 at 3:08am
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sounds like how i collected a 8GB of web page archive over a period of 4 years , 1998 - 2002 in a well organised folder structure.. and never audited it.. when later i sat to audit it figured out lot of information has gone obselete lot of it is no mored needed... deleting uncecessary data reduced the archive size to measly 383MB google still stands best to find any information so far!!! ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss"> 
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