Voice Conversations
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Topic: Voice Conversations
Posted By: Gullanian
Subject: Voice Conversations
Date Posted: 25 September 2004 at 2:51pm
I'm at Uni, and I talk to my beautiful girl on the phone, but it's
becoming a tad expensive so we both went out and bought michs.
They work fine, but I can't (over MSN) seem to connect to anyone with
the mich, but I can fine with the webcam. I get the error:
The network or computer you are trying to reach is experiencing a problem. Please try again later.
I can connect to people on the Uni network fine though. Don't
know much about networks, but I'm guessing it's possible to block
voices over the network.
Is there any other software or setup or something I can do so I can talk to her!!!!
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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 25 September 2004 at 3:02pm
Well, one way is to setup your computer as a Teamspeak server
(www.teamspeak.org) and chat through that. I use it for gaming and to
talk to friends. If both of you are on broadband then it will work
great although it does ok on dialup as well. Connecting to your
computer means she'll have to know your IP (which is easily checked) or
you can setup an account at www.dyndns.org and use an updating client
such as the one at kana.webhop.net which I have used for over a year
behind my Linksys router. The only downside is that the conversations
are half-duplex which means you can't both speak at the exact same time
(think of a walkie-talkie). Of course it is free.
Another way is to check out Skype (www.skype.com). I've not used it
since the early release but it works well and only requires you to both
install the client.
One last suggestion would be something like Vonage.com although I'm not sure if VoiP is available in the UK yet.
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Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 25 September 2004 at 9:49pm
I recommend Skype. I used to use it all the time, sounds as if you are on the phone and i never had any problems with it.
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Posted By: huwnet
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 8:36am
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Skype is good. However teamspeak is a tad unstable. I would use ventrilo (www.ventrilo.com) over teamspeak.
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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 9:32am
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However teamspeak is a tad unstable. I would use ventrilo (www.ventrilo.com) over teamspeak. |
That's funny. I've had a TS server running on a little old 128MB
machine that also acts as my IIS test server. For well over a year it
is yet to fail and I've had over 20 people logged in before.
One of the downsides to Ventrilo is the 8-person limitation unless you wanna pay for hosting.
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 26 September 2004 at 8:16pm
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TS doesn't work, can't connect to the server. Are there any web Java clients on websites i can use?
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Posted By: theSCIENTIST
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 9:02am
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Gullanian: It may well be that your Uni network is blocking every port apart from the usual ones, the services described above all use different ports to establish connections, and if your Uni is blocking them all then you will not be able to do much, I recommend either using a port scanner to scan for opened ports internally (not over the Internet) or ask a network administrator what's blocked and whats not.
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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 10:55am
thescientist wrote:
I recommend either using a port scanner to scan for opened ports internally |
And I recommend using a lot of caution when scanning ports. If your
school admins are even half-ass decent they'll really frown on port
scanning. You may find yourself in hot water for that one. Better to
ask them.
gullanian wrote:
TS doesn't work, can't connect to the server. Are there any web Java clients on websites i can use? |
There aren't any java clients that I'm aware of; however, you could
setup your own TS server and have it run on common ports like 21 or
even 80 if you want unless you plan on running a webserver or ftp
server.
Of course they may be blocking external requests for those ports so its hard to say.....
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 10:59am
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You may want to check out skype - http://www.skype.com/ - http://www.skype.com/
No experience with them, but a couple of people I know use them and like them.
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 27 September 2004 at 1:29pm
Cheers guys
I tried:
Roger Wilko
Skype
TS
MSN
None seem to work, except on the internal uni network. It's a
real shame! It costs so much to phone mobiles, I guess I will
send an email asking what I can do to the network admin.
Thanks
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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 5:02am
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one thing. you talk too much 
else u would have never found cell phone to be expensive!!
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 8:55am
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Not here in the UK, it's around 30p a minute.
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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 1:10pm
What's that convert to in USD (appox)?
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 1:11pm
Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 1:32pm
0.30 GBP United Kingdom Pounds
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0.543561 USD United States Dollars
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1 GBP = 1.81187 USD
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1 USD = 0.551916 GBP |
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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 28 September 2004 at 1:58pm
WHAT? That is as expensive as it is here in Norway!
dang..
Uni is university eh?
use a uni phone
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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 6:26am
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use land phone.. btw how much u want to talk that cell phones have started to feel expensive..here it is
0.40 saudi riyals a minutes which converts to
0.1067 US Dollar
- or -
0.0589 British pound
and prepaid is
0.3200 US dollar
- or -
0.1769 British Pound
and those rates are constant for calling nation wide fixed land line or cellular 
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 7:10am
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We get ripped off here in the UK. Mobile phone companies were
recently done by trading standards and had to lower their rates because
they charged 50p per minute when it only cost them 5p.
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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 8:06am
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they charged 50p per minute when it only cost them 5p |
Those bastages---you mean they were making a profit to provide you with a luxury item? How dare they do that....oh wait...they are a business that is supposed ot make a profit. I'll hush now.
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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 11:40am
same here they charge us lot more than what it cost them!! 
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 11:47am
the boss wrote:
use land phone.. btw how much u want to talk that cell phones have started to feel expensive..here it is
0.40 saudi riyals a minutes which converts to
0.1067 US Dollar - or - 0.0589 British pound
and prepaid is
0.3200 US dollar - or - 0.1769 British Pound
and those rates are constant for calling nation wide fixed land line or cellular  |
It looks like you pay 3 times more if you pre-pay. Why would anyone do that?
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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 11:52am
the boss wrote:
same here they charge us lot more than what it cost them!!  |
of course.. would you run a non-profit telecom company?
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 12:31pm
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Xeerex, of course they need to make profits, but theres a point when profit margins become exploitative.
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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 29 September 2004 at 12:50pm
i got used to the system here in the us, having a fixed amount of minutes for a certain price, thus overage can become expensive. I have 1200 anytime minutes and free nights and weekends and pay $40 a month, that is not too bad if you talk a lot, back in europe I ended up always paying more than that because minutes kept adding up.
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