how to get sh*tweaver right??
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Topic: how to get sh*tweaver right??
Posted By: the boss
Subject: how to get sh*tweaver right??
Date Posted: 10 October 2004 at 11:52am
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what i see is not what i get and what is get is not what i see
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Posted By: huwnet
Date Posted: 10 October 2004 at 1:01pm
 
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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 11 October 2004 at 5:14am
no jokes here.. im pretty pissed off for real on sh*tweaver.. ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss">
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 11 October 2004 at 5:44am
Go for good ol' notepad  Too many HTML editors are becoming way to complex nowadays, you can never beat the power of hand coding. |
Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 11 October 2004 at 8:53am
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Have you checked for the short circuit between the keyboard and chair yet? Another good editor that is better than Notepad IMHO is [ http://www.ornj.net/software/araneae/ - araneae ] which is lightweight but a step above Notepad. ------------- http://webspacegeeks.com - Need Hosting, Domains, Dedicated Servers? http://www.smartergeek.com - web design | pc support | training | podcasts | video production |
Posted By: theSCIENTIST
Date Posted: 11 October 2004 at 9:09am
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Yes, I havent't WYSIWYGing for a few years now, nothing beats manual tagging, it's not difficult at all, the difficult part is getting 15/20 minutes praticing then you are on your way.
As for text editors, I use TextPad all the time for everything, it supports syntax highliting for all languages and you can costumise it your way. One of the best in my view. ------------- :: http://www.mylittlehost.com/ - www.mylittlehost.com |
Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 11 October 2004 at 11:19am
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God, I can see this is going to spawn into another text editor war
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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 11 October 2004 at 11:38am
Heheh -- enough of those boring posts that really help anyway! Actually I use DW a lot since I like the interface and site manager, and I'm lazy as hell in making tables. I don't use but maybe 10% of what the software can do. All my ASP is "hand coded" or ripped from -borg-'s work...opps...I mean based on learning from -borg- and others.  If I am doing quick edits or whatever, then I'll opt for Notepad or Araneae. ------------- http://webspacegeeks.com - Need Hosting, Domains, Dedicated Servers? http://www.smartergeek.com - web design | pc support | training | podcasts | video production |
wrote:Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 12 October 2004 at 4:22am
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i used to like dreamweaver.. MX version never gave me sh*t.. but MX 2004 give me a lot though. table dont align properly or the perfect looking alingment in editio is all messed up in IE. means tables over the given size and growing left and right on their own!! ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss">
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Posted By: theSCIENTIST
Date Posted: 12 October 2004 at 6:33am
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Sizing tables is another science on it's own, and requires good understanding of the underlaying tags, also the TABLE can be sized up and the TD also, but most importandly, no matter how perfect you size it, the ultimate factor is what goes in it, the table will always grow to accomodate the content within, there's no way to avoid that, so you are left with 2 alternatives, you place the table inside an IFRAME set to show scrollers if the content is bigger, or you dynamically check the content and crop it as necessary.
That's why manual tagging is important, it gives you the understanding you need to make those pixel perfect websites. ------------- :: http://www.mylittlehost.com/ - www.mylittlehost.com |
Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 12 October 2004 at 8:59am
Yep. I couldn't agree more. I use DW to get the tables, code, etc, "started" and then tweak it from there. In DW there are 2 words for that: Code View. ------------- http://webspacegeeks.com - Need Hosting, Domains, Dedicated Servers? http://www.smartergeek.com - web design | pc support | training | podcasts | video production |
Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 6:27am
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i didnt ask for HTML lessons here.. i know how to work perfect with tables.. thank you..learnt that many years ago already!! ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss">
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Posted By: theSCIENTIST
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 7:32am
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To be honest I don't see a question?
If tables don't look right when you WYSIWYGing on DW, then have a look at the HTML and adjust it manually. ------------- :: http://www.mylittlehost.com/ - www.mylittlehost.com |
Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 9:22am
Sorry, I should have paid more attention. It's spellcheck lessons you need?  ------------- http://webspacegeeks.com - Need Hosting, Domains, Dedicated Servers? http://www.smartergeek.com - web design | pc support | training | podcasts | video production |
Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 12:37pm
No... He's right. sh*tweaver is still sh*tweaver. It's good for design dated years ago, but now, it's outdated. ------------- http://renegademinds.com/" rel="nofollow - Renegade Minds - Guitar Software http://renegademinds.com/Default.aspx?tabid=65" rel="nofollow - Slow Down Music |
Posted By: theSCIENTIST
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 12:37pm
That's not the question we all answered to.. Would you answer, if that was the only thing to go about? We all answered because of this statement:
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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 1:59pm
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Actually, I don't care if he has a Linux box to code for ASP running
Chilisoft on an Apache server....or uses Notepad or Word '97 or
Publisher's HTML generator and tests on a '98 box running PWS for that
matter. The point is that he didn't ask a specific question. He made a general statement in the topic subject, and then made another general statement in his post out of what I perceived as frustration with DW. That is fine, but issuing general statements will get general answers with a little fun prodding from me. ------------- http://webspacegeeks.com - Need Hosting, Domains, Dedicated Servers? http://www.smartergeek.com - web design | pc support | training | podcasts | video production |
Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 16 October 2004 at 3:43pm
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I use the split view in FrontPage 2003, it's actually quite good! I was really impressed with the new version of FrontPage after trying FP 2000 and 2002, cuz they were no more than sh*t but I do all the CSS and serverside code my own, and m,ost of the HTML code |
Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 16 October 2004 at 11:20pm
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Front Page 2003 is great for site management and updating. Very good for html and pretty fair for asp coding. Intellisense rocks! Just avoid using the server extensions, letting it set up your data base, and themes. Stick to your own code, and it's marvelous. It does give you a better WYSIWYG view than Dreamweaver, but neither one is perfect. Both products put a lot of extra code in your page.
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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 17 October 2004 at 3:54am
but FP 2003 no more weaves sh*t with ur tables like DW MX-2004  ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss">
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