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Topic: Opinion on OEM Software
Posted By: Misty
Subject: Opinion on OEM Software
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 2:25pm

I would like to get an opinion on OEM Software. I recently found out about http://www.decasoft.info - http://www.decasoft.info . This company sells cheap software. I was amazed with the low prices. But I am concerned about the possibility of it being too true to be good. I know that the OEM software don't come in boxes and with manuals. I would not mind buying some software without manuals. I have never purchased OEM software before.  Has anyone purchased OEM software before? If so, can you please tell me about your experience?




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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 3:16pm
Well, the only downside I see is that the shipping time is listed from 10-21 days as it comes from Europe. Other than that, it appears to be legitimate.

Lets face it. How many times have you actually used a Windows manual or put the box on your shelf for decoration? If I have a question about any software, then google is my first stop anyway or one of several message boards that I frequent.

Another point to consider is that I also build custom pc's for clients. All of my parts/software are ordered online and shipped in to me based on which of the vendors that I use has the best deal at the time. When it comes to software, I always purchase OEM versions when possible as long as it it cheaper than my local Wal-Mart or BestBuy.


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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 6:15pm
Originally posted by from the web site from the web site wrote:


OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) which means that you will receive the installation CDs only (they do not come in their original retail packing and do not include the manual)


But... OEM is NOT meant for sale to consumers. Makes me wonder about licensing and whether you would get support. For the prices though... who would care?


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Posted By: Phat
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 9:13pm
I have looked at this site before and been a bit suspect as well.

If you do purchase let me know how you go.



Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 10:54pm
Don't buy from them!

The domain is
    Registered to someone in Moscow
    Billing address is in Paris
    Company profile is from Pakistan ( http://www.worldbid.com/decasoft - Link )

Also the domain is blacklisted for spamming on several sites:
http://www.joewein.de/sw/dbl-update/2004-09-22.htm

Company is called OEM Software LTD.  Did a search on the company name and came up with a few news items specifically directed at this company.

Might want to read this news item from the Register (great online news site BTW):
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/03/oem_software_scams / - The Register News Link

Also might want to read this forum thread:
http://www.crime-research.org/news/04.06.2004/321/comments /?p=3Crime Research Org - http://www.crime-research.org/news/04.06.2004/321/comments /?p=3]Crime Research Org

Hope I saved you guys a few bucks.



Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 10:58pm
Register news address again:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/03/oem_software_scams /


Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 14 October 2004 at 10:58pm
Grrr... It put a space after the word scams, take that out or the link won't work.


Posted By: Misty
Date Posted: 15 October 2004 at 12:53am

Gullanian,

Thank you very much for the information! I just felt like it was too good to be true. I was obviously spammed. I received an email with information on cheap software. I usually delete junk emails without reading them. This particular email got my attention. I definitely wouldn't want to buy illegal copies of software. It sounds like they may make illegal copies of software and put them on CDs and then sell them. 

There are some companies in the US like http://www.softwareoutlet.com - http://www.softwareoutlet.com  that sell software for lower prices. But the prices are not as low as the prices on the Decasoft's web site of course. I always like to try to find software at cheaper prices.  Fortunately, I never even tried to purchase anything from Decasoft. I just wanted to do some research because the low prices for the software sounded too good to be true.



Posted By: Phat
Date Posted: 15 October 2004 at 3:39am
Guess my suspicions were right.

Thanks for the info.


Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 15 October 2004 at 8:19am
Actually, if you look at their prices, they are not all that cheap. $80 for WinXP Pro is not uncommon at all as I can find it at many online reputable vendors for around $100. Wal-Mart sells the McAfee Spam Killer for $29.99 on the shelf, while Decasoft has it for $20.

Anyway, I'm not in support of Decasoft one way or the other since I wouldn't wait the long time for the shipping. However, that site doesn't fit the "typical" spammed email site in content or look.

It would be interesting to find someone who has actually ordered from them.


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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 15 October 2004 at 8:29am
The prices are probably explained by the fact that they are more realistic than other OEM scam sites, and a biproduct of their realism is increased profits also.

I wouldn't be suprised if the website layout was mimicked from another site or bought from a template site.

There are an estimated 800,000 scam OEM sites out there, this one was only bought to our attention because of it's more sophisticated functioning and style.

It's not hard nowadays to validate the authenticity of any E-store, do a WHOIS on the domain, if your feeling brave even phone them, Google every company name they run under and try and find forums of people who have bought from that site.


Posted By: BoLt
Date Posted: 15 October 2004 at 9:40am

OEM software is usually the same as the boxed without support or the box. Normally OEM software is supplied with a new PC system so manufactures can do bundle deals. OEM software is no problem as long as you do not need support as the makers of the software would normally tell you to go to the supplier for assistance.

OEM software is it good or bad? This depends on how you see it. As long as software manufactures are not suffering due to the undercutting of the price I can not see a problem and I dont think they would sell the product as OEM if they were not.

It all depends if you want the software with support and a cardboard box as cost or to take the chance with OEM without the support and without the box at a cheaper price. Hmmmm let me think now what do you think?

All I can say it watch out where you get it as you can not complain if the software dont work. If you do the question from the software manufacture would be where did you get it form and did you know you where getting OEM. If you did not know it was OEM then the supplier may get a nasty kick up the .... from the software manufacture and you will not get a replacement. If you did know you was getting OEM from the supplier, you and the supplier may get a nasty kick up the .... from the software manufacture and you still will not get a replacement.

It's up to you



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Posted By: xeerex
Date Posted: 15 October 2004 at 10:39am
Originally posted by The Register Article The Register Article wrote:

The use of the acronym "OEM" seems nothing more than a lame excuse to legitimise the sale of illegal software.


Actually, that is a lame excuse of a statement. There are many companies that sell authorized OEM versions under agreement from the software makers. The software makers still make the same amount as if they had sold it to the OEM in the first so the argument the money argument doesn't wash either.

There are tons of VERY legitimate sites on the internet that sell OEM hardware and software. Many times the software/hardware makers overestimate demand and overproduce. To move this excess and free up their inventory cash flow, they will sell it in bulk to a distributor. There are also plenty of other reasons.

Whether or not decasoft is legitimate (appears maybe not) is not the issue. As a consumer online you should treat this as no different than any other purchase. Do a quick google of the retailer.

Here are some VERY legitimate vendors that offer various OEM versions, which debunks the above quote from The Register. Maybe The Register considers them "warez for sale" sites???

http://www.newegg.com/app/SearchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=6 - http://www.newegg.com/app/SearchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go& amp; amp;DEPA=6

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-7961893-7141749 - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-796 1893-7141749

http://shop4.outpost.com/category/Outpost/Electronic+Components/Computer+Components/OEM+Software/?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG - Fry's Outpost




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Posted By: huwnet
Date Posted: 19 October 2004 at 3:46pm
Ok course this is fake. Windows server 2003 180$.

FAKE




Posted By: MikeFleischmann
Date Posted: 19 November 2004 at 11:21am
Actually,

I build a pc now and again for friends, and since it is a new pc I purchase OEM software for it. I have had very good luck with http://www.marketpc.com/ and a few others that you find through yahoo shopping. I would never buy any software from a SPAM e-mail. That would be a lot like putting your credit card info on your web site.

Have a great day!!
Mike



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