Google query
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Topic: Google query
Posted By: Gullanian
Subject: Google query
Date Posted: 30 October 2004 at 9:49pm
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I don't understand how google is allowed to: - Have text in search results taken directly from a website - Cache pages - Cache images Surely this is breaking the law? I have copyrighted my material and Google (or any other search engine) is without permission holding it on their servers? Not that I mind, this is more of a query. |
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 31 October 2004 at 1:02am
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Search engines, including Google have addressed this issue some time ago which is why they follow orders from robots.txt files. Caching pages is really no different from what my browser, or perhaps your isp does. At least google eventually expires them. Try checking a site you had a few years ago from the wayback machine at http://www.archive.org/web/web.php - http://www.archive.org/web/web.php if you want the sins of your youth to haunt you.
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 31 October 2004 at 7:49am
| Hmm ok, still seems a little grey to me though. Have there been any law suits over it or anything? |
Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 31 October 2004 at 9:42am
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Wouldn't be surprised if there's been lawsuits, but who do you sue? There's been some sort of indexed search capability since at least 1986. Some cache pages some don't. Even I've written bots to search for things. Don't forget, that the stuff that's cached by search engines, browsers, and isp's like NetZero is publically available and contains full text - including copyright notices. If it's not publically available, it's not cached. -------------
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 31 October 2004 at 11:54am
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It just sounds to me like someones written a book, and someone says I'm
going to take your book and republish it unless you have another page
in it telling me specificaly not to. Correct me if I'm wrong, but here in the UK whatever I write is automaticaly covered by copyright laws, and no-one can take any of it without my permission. |
Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 31 October 2004 at 4:46pm
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No one can take it and claim ownership or publish without your permission. Google is less like a book, and more like a library index. As far as cached pages go, they are publically accessible. The only fidfference between them in by browsers cache and them in googles cache is how long they stay there. If you have information that should not be accessible to the general public, you can either put it on a page that is not named after your server's default page, and have no links to it from any other web page - which brings up the question of why do you want it on the web. Or you can put it into a password protected area. You don't have to let google into your site. A two line robots.txt file will block it. -------------
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 31 October 2004 at 6:00pm
| Thanks for the information, it's not something I'm trying to solve just curiosity. |
Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 31 October 2004 at 6:08pm
| http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/15143-3-10.htm - An interesting read |
Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 5:09am
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ok if u think so then it also makes millions of ISP and corporate caches illegal... and no cache means we would wait for a minute on T3 connection to open WWG homepage!! dude.. wake up.. and dont over board with copyright issue.. google eventually benifits you by bringing more traffic to your site and no body expect you will be on the loss side if u block google access.. ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss"> 
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 01 November 2004 at 7:49am
| Hey hey, I know it's useful, as I said it's just curiosity. |