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Topic: Web Wiz Rich Text Editor v3.0 b1 TESTING

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: Web Wiz Rich Text Editor v3.0 b1 TESTING
Date Posted: 18 January 2005 at 1:39pm

The latest version of Web Wiz Rich Text Editor v 3.0 beta 1 has been released.

This new version on the surface, except for the 'Paste from Word' tool, looks identical to version 2.0, but underneath the code has been re-written to make it much simpler to integrate the Web Wiz Rich Text Editor into your own forms.

The latest version allows you to take any HTML textarea and with just 4 lines of code turn it into a WYSIWYG Editor. Well at least that's the theory.

No more messing with transferring data to an iframe.
Any content, even HTML, within your forms textarea is automatically transferred to the RTE (WYSIWYG) Editor, making version 3.0 much simpler to integrate than previous versions.

You can download the new version at:-

http://www.richtexteditor.org/ - http://www.richtexteditor.org/

An on-line demo version can be seen at:-

http://www.richtexteditor.org/beta - http://www.richtexteditor.org/beta

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 6:37am

I released this version 4 days ago now.

Does the lack of feedback mean that this version is bug free and no-one is having integration problems?

Or

Is no-one testing this application?

Any help on testing this version would be appreciated. If it is positive I can start integrating this version into the other applications on this site and get the full version released. Smile

Also, how is the new 'Paste From Word' Tool? Are you finding that it is cleaning up MS Word Documents successfully?

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Posted By: FuSioNmAn
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 8:19am

Hi borg! I've used your text editor recently but 2.0 version.

I've about 800 users that use it by few day.

If I find any bug I'll give warning you

You have make an excellent job!

Your editor is better than all other (pure asp) editor.

I'll try your new version ASAP

Using the demo version on your site I haven't find any bug for now.

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 9:16am

Thanks FuSioNmAn most of the popup tools haven't changed accept the new 'Paste Form Word' Tool.

What does need testing is the new integration, I spent most of my time over Christmas and the New Year changing the main RTE javascript to make it simpler to integrate.

The new version now takes a pre-existing textarea in your form and changes it using Javascript into an RTE area, transferring across any pre-existing data from the textarea.

The toolbar buttons are also now created using JavaScript, this means that the RTE is more downgreadable, if someone doesn't have Javascript enabled on their browser they just see your original textarea, so can still use the form.

For those with non-RTE browsers, but with Javascript enabled they get some different buttons that allow them to edit the textarea with, but without the WYSIWYG features.

This should all make the RTE much simpler to integrate as the old version placed an Iframe in the middle of the form that was difficult for allot of people to pre-fill with data. This new version should prevent these problems as it takes an existing textarea and any data within it and transforms it into an RTE textarea.

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Posted By: ParacelsusPT
Date Posted: 21 January 2005 at 10:58pm

Hi borg!

I was most interested in your new version of RTE, since I really wanted to integrate RTE with existing textareas.

Currently, I'm trying to test it, but unfortunately my host's FTP is down until Wednesday. So, only after that I'll be able to give you some feedback.

But, in theory, it will work just fine...

Posted By: Sandertje
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 3:07pm

Hi!
I downloaded the RTE last week, and tested it! Great product! Compliments.. I'm just getting one error when trying to upload an image of file:

It says:

Server object error 'ASP 0177 : 800401f3'

Server.CreateObject Failed

/ed/functions/functions_upload.asp, line 85

Invalid ProgID. For additional information specific to this message please visit the Microsoft Online Support site located at: http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.

Can you tell me if I did something wrong. Thanx!
Sander Big smile

Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 22 January 2005 at 3:22pm

it looks like from the error you don't have the selected uplaod component on the server.

check to see if your host supports the selected component (s). and use one that is on the server.

Posted By: Kriz
Date Posted: 24 January 2005 at 4:20pm

Hi!

I recently discovered the RTE v.2. It looked awesome. I started using it but I never got to a full integration because I saw there was a v.3.0 b1.

I thought, why spending time on v2 when there's allready a v3. But that's something I regret a little bit for the moment, because V3 doens't work...

I have problems when I hit the submit button. My changes to the text are not visible... I tried it in the online demo version, and I have the same problem over there... But not always... that's very strange.... Sometimes it works. But mostly not.

Another thing : when I hit the back-button and choose preview from the menu the popup screen shows my editing. The preview always works.

Can you tell me what the problem could be or what I am doing wrong?

But still... awesome editor!!

BTW; how do you announce bug fixes?

Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 24 January 2005 at 5:14pm

the V3 editor is still in beta and should not be used on a live site, it should be for testing only. bug fixes aren't offically announced.

they are just shown within this forum. and sometimes on the main site page (site news)

Posted By: djlurch
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 1:01am

Borg:

Thanks for the new release. I tried unsuccessfully to install it. I got it to almost run, but not quite.

There are a few problems:
The installation notes are incomplete
1) non Dim'ing of variables strFormName and strTextarea
2) path to RTE folders...I obviously don't want to put my files all in the RTE folder, therefore a relative path assignment to the RTE folder is required
3) poor usage of include file. I have pages that post back to themselves. Having multiple <!-- include file="rte_editor_inc.asp> files is impossible without extreme funkiness. i want to use that include file once in an asp page...then use a variable if some code needs to be displayed for the JS includes and other enabling code.
4) the graphics (B/I/U) are not standard windows. i prefer the traditional buttons, not the white/black buttons
5) too much intermingling of includes to be easily customizable.

Overall though...nice migration to textarea. This is a much more elegant (IMHO) approach than the IFrames.

Troy

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 5:22am

Kriz wrote:

Hi!

I recently discovered the RTE v.2. It looked awesome. I started using it but I never got to a full integration because I saw there was a v.3.0 b1.

I thought, why spending time on v2 when there's allready a v3. But that's something I regret a little bit for the moment, because V3 doens't work...

Another thing : when I hit the back-button and choose preview from the menu the popup screen shows my editing. The preview always works.

Can you tell me what the problem could be or what I am doing wrong?

But still... awesome editor!!

BTW; how do you announce bug fixes?

Could you give me some more details such as wehn these problems occur and in what browser (and security level) and OS?

Also if you have any AV or Internet Security software running could you try disabling that to see if it is that which is effecting it?

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 5:35am

djlurch wrote:

Borg:

Thanks for the new release. I tried unsuccessfully to install it. I got it to almost run, but not quite.

There are a few problems:
The installation notes are incomplete
1) non Dim'ing of variables strFormName and strTextarea
2) path to RTE folders...I obviously don't want to put my files all in the RTE folder, therefore a relative path assignment to the RTE folder is required
3) poor usage of include file. I have pages that post back to themselves. Having multiple <!-- include file="rte_editor_inc.asp> files is impossible without extreme funkiness. i want to use that include file once in an asp page...then use a variable if some code needs to be displayed for the JS includes and other enabling code.
4) the graphics (B/I/U) are not standard windows. i prefer the traditional buttons, not the white/black buttons
5) too much intermingling of includes to be easily customizable.

Overall though...nice migration to textarea. This is a much more elegant (IMHO) approach than the IFrames.

Troy

1. I shall look into that
2. You can place the RTE files into the folder you place the RTE area into. I tried for 3 days to make it so you can just put in the path to the RTE files so they could be in their own directory, but this wouldn't work due to path problems to things like files, images, etc. when the form is submitted would be incorrect.
3. I think you are implementing it in the wrong way
4. This is just personal taste and you can easily switch the images used for these buttons to something you prefer
5. There are very few includes, most buttons launch pop-up windows, other includes are used to modulise the code as much as possible for simpler customisation

An Iframe is still used for the textraea to get the RTE features to work, it's just less visible now as a Javascript file is now used to hide the original textarea, then create an Iframe and pass the data from the textarea to the IFrame.

This like the buttons are more difficult to customise and are created now with JavaScript, the reason for this is so that if a user doesn't have javascript enabled they see the normal textarea with no buttons, if an include was used for this like in the old version, those without JS would still see the buttons, but wouldn't be able to use them.

I've spent around 100 hours working on version 3.0 from version 2.0, but allot of things you have to comprimise between what will work and what is simple to implement. It's a very fine balance and in the process some things have to be sacrificed, like being able to have the RTE files in their own folder.

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Posted By: FuSioNmAn
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 7:05am

-boRg- wrote:

Thanks FuSioNmAn most of the popup tools haven't changed accept the new 'Paste Form Word' Tool.

What does need testing is the new integration, I spent most of my time over Christmas and the New Year changing the main RTE javascript to make it simpler to integrate.

This is the most important feature.

I spent too much time to intagrate the 2.0 version in my form.

I must to try this new version!

Posted By: Kriz
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 8:26am

-boRg- wrote:

Could you give me some more details such as wehn these problems occur and in what browser (and security level) and OS?

Also if you have any AV or Internet Security software running could you try disabling that to see if it is that which is effecting it?

I tried it on 3 different pc's.

OS : Win XP pro (SP2) or XP home (SP2)

browser : IE 6.0

I have Norton Internet Security 2004 or Norton antivirus 2005, but disabling doesn't help.

Specific problems.

When I open the demo, I got a first message:

A runtime error has occured. Do you wish to debug

Line 60
error : permisson denied

Code referring to :

function initIframe(){
  editor.designMode = 'on';
-->  editor.attachEvent('onkeypress', editorEvents);
  editor.attachEvent('onmousedown', editorEvents);
  document.attachEvent('onmousedown', hideIframes);
};

The preview still works, but after I hit the submit form button I get the same error messages at line 71 and 91

Tell me if you need to know more...

Greetz,

Kriz

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 8:42am

The reason why it is not working is that the JavaScript that is required for the RTE to run correctly is not being triggered due to these errors.

For some reason you are getting a permissions error from your browser preventing it from running the JavaScript.

I've tried to replicated it on my own machine which is XP Pro (sp2) with IE6 at various different security levels but can not replicated this error.

Could you try some tests for me such as changing the security level on IE to see if that corrects it?

If not I know some security software prevents javascript from firing certain events, could you try disabling various different security software such as AV, Firewalls, add-blockers, etc. to see if it is one of these that courses the problem?

Thanks Smile

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 9:15am

Could you also tell me if you get this error when swiching between HTML and WYSIWYG view?

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Posted By: Kriz
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 10:11am

Hi borg,

I have set my privacy and security level totally down and still I get the same errors. No AV, pop-up killer or something like that.

When I switch to HTML view, my editing is added and I have no errors, but when I hit the submit button I see no changes in the preview. But no error messages.

Something else I can try?

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 11:04am

The reason why it is not submitting is becuase of the permissions error you get isn't allowing the original textarea to be updated with the contents of the RTE when submitted.

The problem is I can see no reason in the code why this error would occur, and unless I can replicate this error in some way I can't try a change the code to something that would work as I have no-way of testing the code.

You say it happens on all the computers you test on, is there snything that is simular between all the machines.

Also I know Norton does course allot of problems, have you tried on a mchine that Norton is not installed on and if you have did it have the same error?

Thanks for your help.

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 11:37am

Also, do you have ZoneAlarm installed as I know this also courses allot of problems?

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Posted By: WebFred
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 11:56am

Hi boRg

Firstly must say RTEv3 looks great. I'm trying to use it to allow the user to update a news item.But i'm having the same problems as Kriz, interestingly also have the problem with V2. Shut down Zone alarm but this not helped.

It does seem to update once from a clean boot.

Im on win98 se2 with IE6.0.28 with EZ anti virus

will try on another machine

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 12:18pm

Well I've tried Norton Internet Security and apart from making my computer run much slower (about 30%) it's not replicating the error.

I guess I'll have to try some other means to replicate this error.

Just need to try and worlout what is coursing the problem then I can try a replicate the error so that I can come up with a solution.

Right now I'm going to try a get rid of that horrible Norton software from my machine

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Posted By: Kriz
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 1:15pm

Very odd... The demo is working fine now. A few days ago it got those errors. Did you change something in your code?

(OS : Win XP SP2 - Software : IE 6.0 + SP2 - Norton Antivirus 2005 enabled and no firewall or any blockers. I did a clean format a few weeks ago, so I don't have much software on it for the moment.)

I hope it keeps on going now.

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 1:21pm

This is getting stranger as I have changed nothing on the version 3 beta 1 demo since I uploaded it at the begining of last week.

From what I can find on javascript permission errors they usually only occur when trying to fire an event or access a frame from a different site or another domain, so I can't see how it can happen when everything is on the same site and no frames are used.

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 1:22pm

Also are you using the version 3.0 demo at:-

http://www.richtexteditor.org/beta - http://www.richtexteditor.org/beta

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Posted By: Kriz
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 2:36pm

Sorry for all the trouble. It's a local problem.

Yes, I use that demo.

I've checked it on my laptop now and I have the problem like I had before.

- Win XP home
- IE v. 6.0 SP1
- Norton Internet Security 2004 running (disabeling NIS and NAV doens't help)
- security and privacy level completely open doesn't help either

What could it be...

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 2:57pm

Would it work if you uninstall Norton?

Or do you possible have anything else installed that effects settings? Maybe add blocking, Firewall, etc.

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Posted By: Kriz
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 3:12pm

It's works on my other computer and Norton is still on over there so... I don't think the Norton Antivirus is causing the problem. And I think there is no other software that could cause an error...

I tried to find more about the permission denied error, but there was nothing helpfull for the moment...

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 3:19pm

If it's now working on your other machine, could it be a bug with a partcular version of IE?

Maybe trying windows update on your laptop might update IE and sort the problem.

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Posted By: Kriz
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 5:40pm

Believe it or not... SP2 installation made the RTE work... The editor works fine now (so far).

I'll be testing the v3 b1 next couple of days/weeks. I've already updated some text for different pages in a SQL Server 2000 db, so the integration goes easy.

Sorry for all the trouble. Thank you for your time!

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 5:13am

It looks like from other posts that it is a particular version of IE on all platforms that has this problem.

IE6.0.28 has the Access Denied problem

IE6.0.29 (the latest IE release) doesn't have this problem

The only thing I can think of doing is to detect in the code the version of IE people are using and if it is 6.0.28 ask them to go to Windows update and update to 6.0.29 or above.

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Posted By: WebFred
Date Posted: 26 January 2005 at 9:06am

I've resolved my problem by downgrading to v2 and following the installation notes properly!

still on IE6.0.28 but no problems now

with V2 -couldnt seem to get Q3 passed to the RTE_Textarea.asp so cheated with a sessionvar crude but works

Such elegant code then I stomp in with size nines!!

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 29 January 2005 at 11:49am

IE Access/Permission Denied Bug Fix!!

I believe I have found a fix to this error Big smile

After spending days trying to replicate this error, I find that I had already resolved this error, without even knowing it, while refining some of the code for the next version, and it was done by changing one line of code!!

I was expecting this fix to take days to workout, but here is the fix:-



Change line 135 of the file 'RTE_javascript.asp' from:-




editor.designMode = 'on';




To:-




editor.body.contentEditable = true;

I've updated it on the beta page at:-

http://www.richtexteditor.org/beta/ - http://www.richtexteditor.org/beta/

If all those that had this error in IE please try the update and let me know it works.

Many thanks all of you for your help with this Big smile

Posted By: xavier
Date Posted: 30 January 2005 at 9:19am

-boRg-

Is there a way i can integrate your RTE with WWF
i was just wondering at least to make it at least more functionable and dynamic for my users.

Even if you have no topic to post you will just want to use the RTE to feel the work.

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 30 January 2005 at 11:15am

Due to forum permissions etc. trying to intergrate the latest RTE into Web Wiz Forums would be quite a long and tedious task with allot of changes being required.

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Posted By: Kriz
Date Posted: 31 January 2005 at 9:50am

I have no problems with the editor anymore. But I also installed SP2 before the bugfix, so... But I have changed the line in my code and everything goes fine. No problems anymore so far...