WhenU spyware
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Topic: WhenU spyware
Posted By: huwnet
Subject: WhenU spyware
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 1:54pm
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Ad-aware no longer detects WhenU spyware because they got payed to take it out of the definitions. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=66330 There was a better articles on slashdot but I couldnt find it again  They are almost out of buisness now that Microsoft Anti-spyware is going to stay free and will probably be bundled with Longhorn. |
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 2:06pm
| I got the MS one, it's pretty good. |
Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 2:08pm
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being paied to take it out.. just shows who side anyone can be on if money is involved. |
Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 2:12pm
| It's a shame they got paid of, kind of defeats the purpose of their software. |
Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 2:28pm
| But the purpose of their software is to make money, otherwise they would give it away free |
Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 3:48pm
I don't think that is a valid statement. The purpose of a bodyguard is to make money as well but he should not be able to be paid off by someone who thinks he has a reason to kill that person. ------------- http://baumannphoto.com" rel="nofollow - Blog | http://mpgtracker.com" rel="nofollow - MPG Tracker |
Mart wrote:Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 4:00pm
The bodyguard might be payed off if Bodysoft was giving better bodyguards away for free |
Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 18 February 2005 at 4:32pm
| Then we can't trust bodyguard any more. Would you then hire bodyguard to protect your life? |
Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 19 February 2005 at 7:15pm
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There is a difference between spyware and keyloggers. There is also a
difference in what information is collected and how it is used. Adaware
is supposed to detect malicious software that installs itself and
monitors habits and serves ads or reports on that information. Computer
based surveillance on an individual does not necessarily fit into that
category (e.g. Is my spouse cheating on me? Let's find out...) It is far beyond the capabilities of most people to write their own software to monitor their own computers for that type of thing. I don't blame adaware for de-listing that kind of software. (i.e. There the question is one of scope - what is it supposed to do?) The question is also relevant for WhenU -- WhenU is supposed to be an opt-in type of monitor. That doesn't make sense for Adaware to list it as spyware. If you opt in to something, or knowingly install something, then that's your business. Adaware is doing nothing wrong by de-listing honest business people who inform their users about their products. The bodyguard example is not really valid here as it is given above. It's more like hiring a bodyguard that will introduce assassins to the person without harming them. The person being protected may want to hire the assassin. Have a closer look at WhenU and you'll see what their products are. Don't just buy into the whole "anti-spyware" feeding frenzy. Relevent ads is a good thing and directly benefits consumers. If you are not an expert on a certain topic, and you get ads on it, then you are in a better position to be informed, which directly benefits your ability to choose the right product for you, which likely extends your buying power and gets you a better value. Right now I think that the technological implementations are a bit on the boogery side of things, including Google's adwords. They encourage bidding, and I'm not too sure that this directly benfits consumers as it only addresses who has the most money and can bid the highest for ads - which completely ignores quality (which is almost impossible to address). Maybe something like a consumer watchdog sponsored XML based service might help to provide some standards for consumer reviews and feedback on products that web spiders or ad servers could reference and factor into how they serve ads. I'm am no fan of "advertising" and the way it has been perverted into a sick and twisted way of associating any product with sex, popularity, blah blah blah. But the function of informing consumers is still a valid and necessary one. We shouldn't punish people for trying to help in a way that makes them money. ------------- http://renegademinds.com/" rel="nofollow - Renegade Minds - Guitar Software http://renegademinds.com/Default.aspx?tabid=65" rel="nofollow - Slow Down Music |
Posted By: huwnet
Date Posted: 20 February 2005 at 7:10am
Yeah it is quite good. Beta2 came out the other day |