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Topic: I hate Panasonic and Technics
Posted By: Bluefrog
Subject: I hate Panasonic and Technics
Date Posted: 09 March 2005 at 11:01pm
Once again, I'm less than impressed with another booger company. This time, it's Panasonic/Technics. It is also the last time as I'll choke myself to death before I buy anything from them ever again.

Quick version why Panasonic/Technics suck hard:

Buy Technics crap. Technics crappy product breaks within a few days. Try to return product. Get told to f*#k off by Panasonic support, retailer, and Panasonic service center. Get forced to have defective crap repaired. Repairs suck. Repairs cost money just to add insult to injury.

Long version why Panasonic/Technics suck hard:

I've needed a new pair of headphones for a while, and since my speakers on my workstation are pretty bad, I figured it would be best to get a decent pair of headphones so that I can get a better frequency range and sound. Also, I'll need them for testing some new software I've got in the works.

I settled on a mid-range pair of headphones from Technics (a division of Panasonic). Not high end, but good enough - about USD 140.00 or so (KRW 140,000) - they are cheaper outside of Korea. It's not hard to spend $300~$500 on a pair of good headphones in the US.

Anyways, I get home, they work for about a week, then the tip of the 1/4" audio jack breaks off. I've got tons of cords and junk with the exact same jack and that has never happened. i.e. Shoddy worksmanship.

This isn't a huge problem at this point. Every once in a while you get a bum product, exchange it, and that's it. Not this time... at least not from Panasonic...

After a polite email to Panasonic support, I get no immediate response:

Hello,

I just bought a Technics RP-F880 headphones set last week and it broke already. My maid threw out my receipt and box as well. I got it at a store in Techno-Mart.

The tip of the audio jack broke in the 1/4" audio jack adapter.

How can I get it replaced? Will you replace it directly or do I need to take it back to the store?

I need them replaced ASAP.

Thanks,

Ryan Smyth

So I head down to just exchange it. Shouldn't be too hard; Korean law states that all products can be returned for exchange or refund if defective within 10 days.

Well, that was stupid. In a country that has yet to invent the thermostat or discover that solids are non-compressible (if you've ever taken the subway in Seoul, you already know this...), expecting anyone to obey the law or even act with a morsel of decency... i.e. No luck.

So, at this point I either throw the headphones in the garbage, or get them repaired at the Panasonic service center... which will take about a month... I opt to leave them to get repaired after their rigorous few hours of use.

The next day I finally get a response from Panasonic support where they politely tell me to go f*#k myself:

Dear Ryan Smyth,

Thank you for visiting our website.

Accessaries such as RP-F880 are not guranteed and their parts have not been supplied.
but, by way of exception, we will supply only ear pad to be used for headphones.
We're sorry that we can't replace broken parts to new parts.

Panasonic Korea Customer Center

Which doesn't matter anyways because they are still obligated by law to replace defective products irrespective of their own policies. Not to mention that there is usually some room for some common decency with most companies.

Three weeks pass and I finally get the heaphones back, repaired with a short, ugly wire where the audio jack isn't even straight in the plastic. On top of that, I have to pay for repairs to the defective headphones. The original cord was a very nice fabric wrapped one. I completely freaked when I saw the cheap garbage it was replaced with. The color I didn't care about, but the fact that the Panasonic service center replaced it with total garbage was just too much. (Kind of like putting bicycle tires on your new BMW.)

Apparently Panasonic doesn't really care about their customers. They must have a lot of them, or at least a lot minus one... And apparently they haven't taken those old McDonald's statistics to heart: for every 1 customer that complains, 10 don't, and they all tell on average 10 other people (or something like that anyways - the first part is correct AFAIK).

It would have simply been easier for them to replace the headphones and just make me happy. I would have appreciated it and in the future I would have probably bought other Panasonic products simply because they treated me well before. I'd even recommend them. Every company has some problem with their products at some point, and the difference between them is in how they deal with it.

How good companies deal with problems:

In late 2003 I bought a 160 GB Seagate hard drive. Within a week I had S.M.A.R.T. errors and the drive was dead. I got in contact with Seagate support and they told me that the drive was toast and just to go to the service center to get a new one.

So I hopped the Seoul subway to Yongsan market and went to the Seagate service center. It's nothing more than a rooftop addon building with boxes and a counter. (I suppose that they farm out all their support/import stuff to this company.)

I explain to the guy that I got S.M.A.R.T. errors and that I need a new drive. I pulled out my receipt, but he never even looked at it. He just grabbed a new drive and handed it to me. Short and sweet. I walked out happy, knowing that I would definitely deal with Seagate in a heartbeat. The next time I bought hard drives I bought 2 Seagate 200 GB SATA drives. And the next time I need more storage, I'll buy Seagate again. I usually buy 2 to 3 new drives a year.

But not only that, I get people coming to me all the time asking about everything from software to monitors, audio equipment, networking equipment and all kinds of other goodies. I'd gladly recommend Seagate, but I will never recommend Panasonic.

Grrr... Angry 



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Replies:
Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 09 March 2005 at 11:22pm
How much is a 200Gb drive?


Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 10 March 2005 at 12:03am
I forget how much they were when I bought them... They were pretty much at the sweet spot for price per storage.
 
Oh... did I mention that http://renegademinds.com/Default.aspx?tabid=60&mid=415&ctl=ViewEntry&EntryID=8 - Panasonic has dishonest and crappy support ?
 


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Posted By: Semikolon
Date Posted: 10 March 2005 at 11:11am
aaaah.. that sucks..

Plextor is good though. all you have to do is apply for an RMA number and have DHL (logistics company) pick up the broken product and you will probably get a new one back after not a long time


Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 10 March 2005 at 2:05pm
I have a Big Screen TV from Pana, though I had to never contact support yet, I feel for you. There are a lot of customer who just don't give a crap. I was pleasently surprised with Sony, they replaced a defective DVD/RW withing a couple days. The worst, and I will never ever ever buy from them again and if they invent Lightspeed Travel is Toshiba. I had a laptop that had a defective wireless module (builtin). 5 days or so after I got the Notebook I called them. They said, sure it's under warranty, send it in and we repair it. I sent it in (was purchased at toshiba directly so no store) and not only did they take 3 weeks to mail it back, they put in an old 11b adapter whereas I bought it with a 11G adatapter, on top of all that the screen got scrached. When I called them they asked for proof that they scratched the screen (yeah right how?) and said I can send the laptop back in to get the right wireless replaced. No apology nothing. I opted to drive 70mls to a service center to get it repaired which again resulted in me having to wait for 6 hours there...Angry

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 10 March 2005 at 2:21pm
I actually had problems with Sony when I got a laptop from them.

I had the laptop about 3 weeks when it suddenly stopped working. So I called Sony who picked it up 2 days later.

After about 4 weeks of hearing nothing I decided to call Sony, after about 6 or 7 phone calls over about a week of being told I would be called back and never did, I finally got told on the 8th phone call that it needed a new motherboard which I would have to pay for!!!

I tried to talk to them about why I should pay, but the guy on the end of the phone just didn't care, so I asked to speak to his manager, he told me I couldn't, he then told me there was no customer services department, he didn't have the address of the head office, and he couldn't give me his name. All this was quite a surprise to Sony's customer support department when I did finally get their number after a few more phone calls.

Anyway, I had a phone call from Sony the next day and they had tracked down the person I had talked to and as a result they would fix my laptop free of charge (shouldn't they have done that in the first place!!!).

Finally after about 6 weeks I got the laptop back fixed.

As a result I have never bought anything from Sony since and never will again.

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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 10 March 2005 at 3:54pm
Companies seem to fail to realise the importance of good customer service.  They are loosing a hell of a lot of money.  Even from one customer getting pissed of they could loose out on a future purchase of a multi thousand pound piece of electronics.  The one customer could tell all his friends (or on WWF!) and thus they loose even more.

Customer support should be treated with more respect by a company than most of them do.

Talking of bad customer services, ever tried phoning a phone company with a problem with your phone line?  You would of thought they would of had millions of phones to answer your calls!  Obviously not, and Telewest, they charge 50p a minute for you to phone support.


Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 10 March 2005 at 11:21pm
Well, guess what the support guys at Panasonic are getting in my "thank-you" email for all their "support"...

That's right Bob! It's a brand new web site! Complete with HTML and everything...

So far I've just set up a basic nothing page, but I'll be Googling to scour the Internet for information to post here.

Evil Smile

HAIL SATAN!



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