ASP or PHP???
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Topic: ASP or PHP???
Posted By: ianb
Subject: ASP or PHP???
Date Posted: 28 April 2005 at 7:36am
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Hi,
I wanted some advice from you all please (impartial). I'm going to get to grips with a hard coding (being using GUI tools like DMW) and would like to know which avenue to take ASP or PHP? I know PHP is open source etc and in the future i'm sure i will use both but for now if i'm going to concentrate on one, which??
And any really good books to suggest?? although not to important cause there's some ideal and good advice from people on amazon.
So any advice? It's not about a particular job i'm doing just personally want to advance on one (specialise). Oh, and can someone tell me if it's ASP should i be looking straight at asp.net??
Many Thanks, Ian
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 28 April 2005 at 7:50am
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In my opinion .Net rules over PHP and ASP. Harder to learn though. Between ASP and PHP, theres lots of fors and against, look on Google. At the end of the day they can both achieve the same thing. You will get cheaper hosting with PHP probably however. |
Posted By: C.P.A.
Date Posted: 28 April 2005 at 9:05am
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however, if you are used to be programming with VB asp is a hell lot
easier to learn. Also, just to mention there is JSP which is a very
powerful language (can be compared with ASP.NET) and as Cullanian said,
ASP.NET rulez over both :) To summarize: ASP if you have some experience with VB PHP if you wanna learn quick and probably cheaper hosting ASP.NET if you are willing to get a good job later ;) JSP ye should know Java! good luck ------------- C.P.A. » The more you find out about the world, the more opportunities warmly welcome you. |
Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 28 April 2005 at 9:07am
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If I were just starting out, I'd go asp.net and then php. Asp, is going nowhere. You won't see it evolve any further while php is just getting into OO.
.net is already there but will be evolving further. The next release - due this year - is supposed to have a lot of code reduction/simplification to enable you to do things with signifiicantly less code. To my mind, that just means there'll be more things you'll have to work-around but for a beginner it should make getting into .net a lot easier.
EDIT: - Hosting that supports JSP's typically costs nore than other language hosting. You need a JVM to run the pages. Shared JVM's are notorious for crashing due to someone else's code. Having your own virtual JVM costs mucho dinero. ------------- 
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Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 28 April 2005 at 9:09am
| I really like the way .net allows you to have C# code. |
Posted By: C.P.A.
Date Posted: 28 April 2005 at 9:18am
Indeed I forgot to mention that  ------------- C.P.A. » The more you find out about the world, the more opportunities warmly welcome you. |
dpyers wrote:Posted By: ianb
Date Posted: 28 April 2005 at 12:02pm
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Thanks for the quick responses i guess the general consensus then appears to be ASP.NET.
Harder but long term benefits and greater job opportunities, what was the phrase i liked 'ASP's not going anywhere and PHP is still elvolving'.
Thanks for the advice to all just didn't want to waste my time unecessarily learning one to switch to other five minutes later (probably will anyway knowing my luck).
Thanks, Ian |
Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 28 April 2005 at 12:42pm
And ASP 3.0 is being 'phased out' of future IIS releases so in the next 5 years it may not even be an option |
Posted By: Lofty
Date Posted: 28 April 2005 at 2:25pm
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ASP is limiting in that only windows servers support it to a decent level. php is a good language. but really. if you are learning a new langauge from scratch then jump into c# and .net or java. c# has a more generic synatx compared to vb.net and learnign it will make learning other languages like java and c++ easier in the future for you. VB.net has the same downfall as classic ASP. in that only windows supports it to a decent level. whereas c# is well supported on windows, linux and BSD and more in development. java is also cross platform. lastly and I must say one of the greatest advantages to learning c# / java / vb.net over any other language is that they are used for both web and non web based applications. I.e. learnign c# will allow you to develop awsome web applications. and the exact same langauge will allow you to create applications to install on ya PC. in fact the .net languages offer you all the abilites that c++ does (i know this is arguable, but for all practical purposes they do offer the same abilites) this might not seem like much at the moment but a large slice of the web wont be accessed via browsers in the future. instead you'll find GUI apps accessing webservices and running from ya PC will be popular. especially if micorsoft get their way as their desire to see this has been well publicised over the past while. will php / asp offer you the ability to do this? nope. c#, vb.net and java? yuppers. and thats only referring to the internet.. theres a big wide world out there of stand alone apps that these languages excell at also. |