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Topic: Suspending Members!
Posted By: greytricky
Subject: Suspending Members!
Date Posted: 26 May 2005 at 7:13am
Ive been using WW for some time now and thought i knew how to suspend a naughty/annoying member
I usually go onto their settings and edit their forum settings and click the radio button that says 'not active'
 
Is this the right procedure for temporarily banning someone without deleting the account ?
 
Users i have tried to suspend in this way have been able to log in which makes me feel like a chocolate fireguard!
 
any advice will be fantastic, thanks Smile



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Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 26 May 2005 at 8:21am
this is the way to do so. there was a bug within the system that allowed users to reactivate accounts.

im not sure if it was fixed in the current version, i know i did the bug fix myself.

the other way to do so is put the user into the guest group where they have no permssions or create a group that has no permssions. then it wont matter if they are active or not.


Posted By: dfrancis
Date Posted: 26 May 2005 at 8:44am
Interesting: I was trying to think of a way to do just what you are talking about and a thought occurred to me. If you create a new group with guestlike privileges, you could restrict their access as you see fit.
 
Let me explain; my application is for a church that has several types of members. Religious forums are difficult by nature and then you throw in a few extremists and it gets, well, colorful. I have 10 moderators who help manage this unruly crowd but because it's a church supported website we can't just ban every person because they can't hold their temper. So we have 'levels' of banning.
 
First, a 2 week time out where they can read and not post
Second, a 30 day time out where they can read and not post
Third, a year time out where they are not supposed to have access.
Forth, permanent. This is reserved for most extreme cases.
 
Using the group feature of WWF, this may be much easier to manage. That's a good thing.
 
I'm still waiting for the new version before I mod the basic forum too much. I'm hoping that groups are managed differently in that I can assign multiple groups to individual users. (Such as participating moderators etc.)
 


Posted By: greytricky
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 7:38am
cheers guys, thats what i have had to do, ive created a new group and not allowed any posting, editing, deleting of any forum topics within it, they can only view, all sorted now!
 
great to get good advice from this support forum, spot on as usual Wink


Posted By: simon121
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 8:34am
i also have a question
when i ban member he steel can logout from hes account and register again...
 
any chance to get a mod that when i ban member the forum puts a cookie on hes computer
 
and when he will try to access the forum again he will be directed to suspended page


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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 9:24am
You could always ban the users IP address

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Posted By: dfrancis
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 9:46am

Already built in is a method of banning an IP address as well as an entire email domain. ( mailto:*@hotmail.com - *@hotmail.com ). It would be easy to create a response.cookie("isbanned") script that when a banned criteria is met, the cookie is set. Just find where the ban check is and add the custom code.

That said, anyone worth their salt will know how to remove the cookie to gain access. Use the tools already part of the program, keep an eagle eye out for the person and just keep kicking them off. They will grow tired of it and leave soon enough.
 
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I've already been looking at ways of banning with cookies, and I want a little bump script that will log the banned user off so the new status "banned" is immediate. I'm looking at the active users list and PM type feature to accomplish this. BUT... too busy to work on it right now.


Posted By: simon121
Date Posted: 29 May 2005 at 10:26am
Originally posted by -boRg- -boRg- wrote:

You could always ban the users IP address
 
yes but what after hes ip changed? Smile


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Posted By: Brolin99
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 2:15am
I have an issue with a guy who keeps posting stuff after I've banned his IP address? It seemed to work OK when I'd done it previously but this guy is still logging on all the time??


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 4:53am
IP addresses can change and also be hidden or altered.

You can try suspending their account, blocking IP's, closing off new registrations, make the new users group read only (make the new user group not allowed to post in forums) then manually move members to a group that can.

But at the end of the day, if someone wants they will always get round any method you try to block them.

The last one, of the new users not being able to post then manually move new members to a group that can would probably be the best way to block this guy.


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Posted By: simon121
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 6:03am
think about it...
with the cookie... you can as admin do the "ban member" order
then when the member log again to the banned account he directed to the suspend page
and thats it! ive seen it in action in the invision board and its great way to ban
without any manual stuff


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Posted By: sfd19
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 6:50am
The more you are doing to annoy people the more they will annoy you.

Ban somebody and he will create additional memberships. And you can do nothing about it. IP-banning, cookie-banning; it never works.

Our record was a user who created 30+ memberships after he was not even banned but had only his forum rights restricted.


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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 8:12am
You can already suspend members by making their account inactive within web wiz forums.

If a members account becomes suspend they can only view the board in the same way a guest can, but if they try and post messages, etc. they get a message saying their account is suspended.


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Posted By: greytricky
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:24pm
My site is a bar life community on line with many members, ive only had do do a few suspensions in the few years we've had the forum live.
People learn the rules/guidelines early on as other long term members are very loyal and keep an eye out for idiots who might register and try to spoil the atmosphere
 
I guess it depends on who your site is aimed at, people can always re-register but it makes it harder if you've banned that ip address and you regularly monitor the daily posts
Im running 7.9 at the moment and had to create a new user group as ticking the inactive box on the members profile failed to close the account
 
still, id never change this forum despite geeks asking me why i run web wiz opposed to others, its fan-bl00dy-tastic Wink


Posted By: simon121
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 1:46pm
yes but they can allways can log off their account and register again..
thats why when they will try to access to ANY page they will be directed to the suspended page
 
i think that will be a great way to ban


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Posted By: Brolin99
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 6:08pm
Hi Simon,
 
Is there any way you can post the code to do the admin banning cookie?
 
Thanks,
Adam


Posted By: simon121
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 2:30am
i wish i knew how.. im not that good at ASP i only know to modify but not to creat
 
maybe one of the mod builders can?


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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 3:57am
The problems with banning using cookies is that cookies can be removed from a users machine, in fact it's simpler to get round that having to sign-up again.

If you enable email activation, then you can also bann email domains from signing up, also you can not sign up with the same email address as a suspended account, this would make re-signing up much more difficult.


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Posted By: simon121
Date Posted: 02 June 2005 at 7:16am
not every one know how to remove cookies...
and i think most of forums not using email activation


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Posted By: Kostya
Date Posted: 03 June 2005 at 12:16pm

Thank you for that discussion

 
Thanks to you, I learned here some techniquest how to suspend annoying users.Smile


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Posted By: JCH2
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 8:49am
Originally posted by -boRg- -boRg- wrote:

You can already suspend members by making their account inactive within web wiz forums.

If a members account becomes suspend they can only view the board in the same way a guest can, but if they try and post messages, etc. they get a message saying their account is suspended.
 
I tried this, but the system then offers them a resend of the activation email. Is that correct, or and anomally I'm seeing?  If they can just get an activation email again, then the system itself seems to have a way for them to get around being suspended.


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 9:15am
A suspended account can not be re-activated via a activation email.

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Posted By: JCH2
Date Posted: 04 August 2005 at 2:46pm
But the still get offered the link?  Hmm.... perhaps that should be addressed in the next version.



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