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Topic: Can’t get to html site

Posted By: mike henson
Subject: Can’t get to html site
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 8:26pm

Now I've uploaded the Forum onto my server every time I try to access the site I get the log-in box.

I've temporarily renamed index.asp to NOindex.asp but I still get the log-in box.

I want users to access the Forum from my index.html page - how do I do that?

Thanks and kind regards

Mike

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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 15 July 2005 at 10:52pm

You cannot have the forum on index.html unless you re-configure IIS to host asp pages on the html extension.

When you say you get the login box, do you get the forums login screen or a server logon prompt? If it's the latter, contact you host.

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Posted By: mike henson
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 5:55am

Hello Michael and thank you for your prompt response.

I think I confused the situation by making two posts but I discovered the second problem after I'd posted the first message.

The log-in box says "Enter Network Password" and asks for "User Name", "Password" and "Domain"; as I've never seen the Admin log-in for the Forum, I don't know what it looks like, so from your comments I guess I need to speak to my hosting company about this?

Prior to uploading the Forum the site had a dozen or so html pages however, now that I've uploaded the Forum, when anyone accesses the site they get this log-in box; I don't seem to be able to restore index.html as the loading page.

I'm not trying to run asp on an html extension. I have just started to learn about .asp so I don't want to go there!

I do however have an index.asp file, as well as a default.asp file and lots of other .asp files. The index.asp file was part of the Forum download so I naturally assumed that is was the opening page of the Forum, which is why I thought that if I changed index.asp to NOindex.asp the site would return back to index.html but this doesn't seem to be the case and I'm stuck with this log-in box.

Incidentally, my host runs Windows and asp is enabled but I can choose v1.0 or v1.1 - does it matter which?

My host also provides a folder called "Databases" so that's where I have placed the database and I have re-directed both "common.asp" files to the new location.

So what have I done wrong?

Thanks and kind regards

Mike

PS. If it's any help the site is at http://www.mikehenson.org - www.mikehenson.org and the host is http://www.redstation.co.uk - www.redstation.co.uk (Entry Level Hosting)

Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 6:59pm

if you are seeing the pop up box then you need ot make sure the Iusr is set correct within IIS if this is hosted remotly then it most likly shouldn't have that.

have you set htaccess on the folder that will require a username and password.

is this a in house network/intranet?

when clicking your website link i cant find the forum, it maybe me not looking right

Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 16 July 2005 at 7:34pm

just ot update if you dont know what iusr is , its the user settins IIS uses around the site, ussually the default settins

are iusr_ computer/server name

and thats what used, that usallly has read/write permssions

Posted By: mike henson
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 8:16am

I had a couple of hours to spare and as my post had not even been moderated I thought I'd start again.

I started by clearing the site at my host's server, uploaded my html site and then uploaded the whole forum folder to the root directory so everything is in a default condition.

Now, when I run default.asp I get the log-in screen but entering "Administrator" and "letmein" returns the following:

Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80040e09'
Cannot update. Database or object is read-only.
/forum/login_user.asp, line 171

I use Bullet Proof FTP and I've tried to change the attributes of the uploaded database but that doesn't seem to work.

Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 1:32pm

that error means that either the folder holding the database and/or the database its self is set to read only.

make sure the folder holding the database is read/write and modify enabled

that should fix the problem

Posted By: mike henson
Date Posted: 17 July 2005 at 5:58pm

I have checked all the files and none are "Read Only"; is it likely that their status might change when uploaded?

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 4:12am

What you need to do is get on to your web host and ask them to create write permissions on the folder containing your access database.

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Posted By: mike henson
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 5:51am

Redstation have modified the attributes but I still can't connect to the database.

When I log-in to my site via ftp I see three folders called "www" - which is where I place all my files. Another called "logs" and a third called "databases" and it's here that Redstation tell me I should install the database and where they've modified the attributes.

I'm sure you can see my predicament. How can I change the two common.asp files to point to a directory which is effectively above the root?

The common file in the directory Forum I have changed from admin/database/wwwforum.mdb to databases/wwforum.mdb

The common file in Forum/admin I have also changed to databases/wwforum.mdb

What am I doing wrong?

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 10:19am

If you read the following it should hopefully help you:-

http://www.webwiz.net/web_wiz_forums/docs_access_move_db.asp - http://www.webwiz.net/web_wiz_forums/docs_access_move_db.asp

What you need to do is move up a directory, for which you use:-

../

For example if you have the forum in a folder called 'forum' under the root of you web site 'www/forum' for the main common.asp file you would use:-

../../databases/wwforum.mdb

And for the admin common.asp, just add an extra '../' to move up an adfditional directory:-

../../../databases/wwforum.mdb

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Posted By: mike henson
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 11:59am

I have read your docs_access_move_db but it doesn't tell you how to move up the structure as I need to do.

I have now followed your advice but it still doesn't work.

To reiterate. I see three folders. "www", "databases" and "logs"

The file wwforum.mdb is located in the databases folder.

I have uploaded the whole Forum into the "www" folder so the locations of the common files are www/forum/common.asp and www/forum/admin/common.asp

I have pointed forum/common to ../../databases/wwforum.mdb

I have pointed forum/admin/common to ../../../databases/wwforum.mdb

I have also tried dropping a ../ off each but that doesn't work either.

I'm still getting a code 500 error.

Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 2:50pm

please turn off http friendly error messages within Internet explorer advanced options, if you need more details on how to do so please visit

http://www.webwiz.net/asp/faq/friendly_HTTP_error_messages.asp

you may find your host doesn't allow that sort of pathing, you may have to use the physical; path, ie E:\domains\user\databases\www_forum.mdb for example.

you can find the physical path by contacting your host.

../../databases/wwforum.mdb and ../../../databases/wwforum.mdb should be correct so i would suggest the physical option.

Posted By: mike henson
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 4:12pm

I already have friendly error messages turned off and the message I get is:

Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005'

Could not find file 'd:\websites\mike\databases\wwForum.mdb'.

/forum/common.asp, line 260

I have been copying my host on this issue with identical information as posted here but they refer me back to you so I'm stuck in the middle trying to resolve an issue I don't fully understand.

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 July 2005 at 5:20pm

This means the path you have entered is incorrect.

Check that the path to the database is correct.

Ask your host what the path should be, it maybe simpler to use the physical server path in your case, if so your host should be able to give you the physical server path to your database.

The install instructions I linked to in the previous post will tell you how to use the physical path to the database.

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Posted By: mike henson
Date Posted: 19 July 2005 at 10:22am

I owe you guys a serious apology.

Last night I sent a serious "rant" to my host because I felt that they were not being as cooperative as they might with this issue.

I have just received a reply from them where they say that having checked the "databases" folder they found it empty!

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