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Topic: Downloadable Video Clips
Posted By: Amateur
Subject: Downloadable Video Clips
Date Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:12am
Hi all,

I am in the process of putting downloadable video clips on my website and am wondering the best format to use. When I say best I mean a tradeoff between quality and size.

Options the I know of are .mpeg, .avi, .wmv

Anyone have any advice.



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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 06 October 2005 at 11:36am
It really depends on the nature of the content as well as the codec you choose for them. DivX is popular and there's a free version. WMV isn't good on Mac boxes. AVI is a solid format and the best choice of the above for any general purpose. MOV is what the pros use but not very Windows friendly. If you're doing screen captures, then AVI with TSCC is the best choice in all likelyhood.

It also depends on your audience...

Too many choices. AVI is a standard (whether Apple likes it or not). Just make sure to choose the right encoder. The WMV encoder can be downloaded for free... etc. etc. etc.


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Posted By: Amateur
Date Posted: 06 October 2005 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by Bluefrog Bluefrog wrote:

It really depends on the nature of the content as well as the codec you choose for them. DivX is popular and there's a free version. WMV isn't good on Mac boxes. AVI is a solid format and the best choice of the above for any general purpose. MOV is what the pros use but not very Windows friendly. If you're doing screen captures, then AVI with TSCC is the best choice in all likelyhood.

It also depends on your audience...

Too many choices. AVI is a standard (whether Apple likes it or not). Just make sure to choose the right encoder. The WMV encoder can be downloaded for free... etc. etc. etc.
 
The nature of the video clips are sports clips. While I would like quality as best as possible, I am also worried about the size of the clip (download time). Being honest I am fairly confused about which format to use, they all have fors and againsts! When I decided on the format I will need to find an application that works well with the format, allows me to edit the clip etc, hopefully free.


Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 06 October 2005 at 5:56pm
Try surfing some porn sites with free video clips and see what they use. Download a few and look into what codecs they are using as well. The reason I suggest porn is because there's a lot of money in it and they guys that do it really do their homework. Also check out CNN to see what they are using.

Real (RM) is another alternative.

You can always do some server-side client detection to choose different formats as well. I've written a couple tutorials on headers that you can check out. The one on http://renegademinds.com/Default.aspx?tabid=49 - HTTP headers give some basic code and the on on the http://renegademinds.com/Default.aspx?PageContentMode=1&tabid=50 - HTTP_USER_AGENT tells a bit about to do it.




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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 06 October 2005 at 7:02pm
Originally posted by Bluefrog Bluefrog wrote:

Try surfing some porn sites with free video clips...


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Posted By: huwnet
Date Posted: 07 October 2005 at 2:35pm
WMV should work fine on mac if you use VLC


Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 07 October 2005 at 10:17pm
Originally posted by huwnet huwnet wrote:

WMV should work fine on mac if you use VLC


But they are downloadable... Doesn't matter what he uses, it matter what the client is going to use...


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Posted By: Skyforum
Date Posted: 07 October 2005 at 11:10pm
I think they have porn sites with black tape over the important parts. They are designed just for this purpose.....


LOL. I got some good links if you need them


Posted By: dfrancis
Date Posted: 08 October 2005 at 9:28am
I have a large client with an entire TV production staff. We have been publishing in WMV for months with no complaints. We provide instructions for non-windows people most of whom already know how to handle wmv because it's so popular.
 
In a recent meeting however, we began exploring mpeg for downloadables and Flash for protected content.
 
(Funny though, these media people wanted to publish in ALL formats. When explained the process (time) and the cost of bandwidth and disk space, they agreed that we either stick with wmv or one other alternative.)
 
From experience, I would suggest that if you're publishing wmv files for download, zip them to force the download, otherwise people will play the clips in place and you'll chew up more bandwidth than you may have intended.
 
I'm about to put a dedicated box in place just for media files. It seems the web is making that transition I expected, from text based to media based. More and more of the larger players (especially news) are making the transition. Throw in some pod-casting, Internet radio and interactive Flash and you have the interactive TV of the future.
 
I wrote an article a few years back that the Internet is the TV of the 50s. I'm confident that within the next 10(?) years it will be difficult to discern the difference between your T.V. and your Internet browser. I remain convinced... we are on a path to true multi media.


Posted By: huwnet
Date Posted: 08 October 2005 at 2:31pm
Well the new bbc imp (google it) is going to stream at about 920kbps depending on your connection speed and is the first to use the WMV-HD codec Wink



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