MS Express editions
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Topic: MS Express editions
Posted By: Tegwin
Subject: MS Express editions
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 7:01pm
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Anyone know if the VB express, SQL express etc will be free when they are launched or will MS charge for them Also now that VS2005 is released, anyone know when the express versions will be out of BETA ------------- If you dont want my peaches, dont shake my tree |
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Posted By: ub3rl337ch3ch
Date Posted: 31 October 2005 at 7:26pm
| ewwwwww... but anyway: if you only need a small db (which is all you can have with sql ex) why not just use mysql? |
Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 2:39am
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Express's are being launched 7th November, it's likely that they will
be around $100 but no doubt they will give some express editions away
with books etc. And ub3rl337ch3ch: SQL Server Express is good for local development, you can then move your db to a "full blown" SQL Server 2005 installation. And if you are using .NET to access SQL Server 2005 there are a lot of reasons that you would want that over MySQL, CLR integration etc. |
Posted By: ub3rl337ch3ch
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 5:08pm
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*shrug* i suppose all of my programming is on an enterprise level, so i've never really looked at the smaller stuff... and i've also never looked at mysql, so i didn't know about the limitations thereof... but if there's stuff that mssql can do that mysql can't, then i can understand the merits of sql ex... its the 4gig limit that makes me cringe...
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Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 5:25pm
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SQL Server Express will be free and true a 4GB limit may cause problems when developing Enterprise Scale DB's. But you can always get the Developer Edition for very cheap (last one was $60 or so). Frankly, you cannot compare SQL 2005 with mySQL anymore, mySQL is nice for storing data but with the new features you can do so much more in sql, but that is my opinion, for something like a simple website either will work fine.
A nice thing with Express is that you can point to the data file directly so you can just upload your mdf and put the path in the connection string. No more host limitation them having to create db's etc.
Every one Express Edition for Visual Studio has been prices at $49 by the way.
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Posted By: ub3rl337ch3ch
Date Posted: 01 November 2005 at 5:31pm
free? they really want to strangle mysql... and it'll probably work if mysql is that limited.... except for the die-hard ms-haters that won't use it just because it has something to do with gatesey...
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Posted By: Mart
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 2:39am
| Well SQL Server Express is designed to replace MSDE, which is MS's free, cutdown version of SQL Server 2000. So people have had a choice of a free DB Engine from MS for years, but there are some licensing limitation IIRC, I think you can only use MSDE in development, you have to upgrade if you want to use it in production. |
Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 12:12pm
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No you can use it in Production but you have to register it if you want to re-distribute it. ------------- http://baumannphoto.com" rel="nofollow - Blog | http://mpgtracker.com" rel="nofollow - MPG Tracker |
Posted By: Tegwin
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 11:06am
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So I guess the Express version will be the same then right ? I guess there is no GUI interface with it either. ------------- If you dont want my peaches, dont shake my tree |
Posted By: michael
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 4:04pm
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Like I said, the Visual Studio Express Editons will be 49, surey they got a GUI :) SQL Server Express actually dropped their SQL Express Manager and they will deliver a scaled down version of Management Studio which comes with SQL Server ------------- http://baumannphoto.com" rel="nofollow - Blog | http://mpgtracker.com" rel="nofollow - MPG Tracker |
Posted By: davidshq
Date Posted: 05 November 2005 at 11:55pm
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I heard something that sounded like maybe Microsoft was thinking of
changing their pricing scheme on the Express products (I'm hoping
free). I guess we'll find out on Monday. I can't wait. ------------- - http://www.davemackey.net/" rel="nofollow - Dave Mackey - Virtual Home. |
Posted By: dfrancis
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 8:35am
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I can't wait either!!
Anyone know of a good .net v2 host? And one who will be offering sql05?
(cheap sandbox account)
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 06 November 2005 at 10:36am
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There's a couple of Freebie V2 hosts listed on the MS .net V2 site.
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Posted By: davidshq
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 10:16pm
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Appears Microsoft is offering free 30 day hosting (automatic deletion at the end). David. ------------- - http://www.davemackey.net/" rel="nofollow - Dave Mackey - Virtual Home. |