Getting a Web Wiz host, help appreciated
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Topic: Getting a Web Wiz host, help appreciated
Posted By: Andorin
Subject: Getting a Web Wiz host, help appreciated
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 6:03pm
Eh, I hope I posted this in the right forum. Okay.
I'm going to purchase a host for running Web Wiz, and I'm not sure what to go for.
I've found a host with Windows server, MS Acces database and ASP support. I can run the normal version of Web Wiz on this, can't I? Then I saw this: "Please note: - MS Access databases have a number of limitations including only 20 concurrent connections per server and limits on size, if you can, use the MS SQL Server version below."
What does these limitations mean? Will it affect a pretty small forum with maybe 150 members? Is it not good? And I don't exactly know yet what kind of MS Acces database it is, could it be wrong if it's not 2000?
So what is suggested to buy to run Web Wiz? Is a host with Microsoft SQL Server 7.0/2000 expensive? Links?
Need a host and info on what the host needs for Web Wiz. Thanks in advance.
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Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 6:25pm
MS Access is a desktop application really not web based as its a flat file.
also 20 connections, when you say 150
is that on at once, also is there likly to have many posts etc because i would then advise to go to SQL.
you can get SQL hosting relativly cheap these days.
one i would say avoid is 1&1 and fasthosts
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Posted By: Andorin
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 7:08pm
Hmm. I just noticed Web Wiz now has Google ads. It wasn't like this before. Isn't it possible to download an older version and don't have them, or are they just there now? Ads on a forum you host yourself sucks. No other boards I can think of have that.
So MS Acces is not suggested, then. I'll go for a SQL.
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Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 02 November 2005 at 7:36pm
borg has said its a tempory thing to see how it goes.
it is advisable to use the latest version because of security holes and features that have been added.
they where added in the latest (V7.95)
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security holes have been patched not added 
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Posted By: Andorin
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:34am
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Until now, I've used PunBB in a Unix host. Will Web Wiz run as fast as it, if I have the SQL version? Is Web Wiz latest version fast? I'm switching from Unix and PHP with purpos to use Web Wiz, is it worth it if I use SQL? As I understood it, there are no limitations in a host with Microsoft SQL Server 7.0/2000 database? What's best between 7.0 and 2000? Is it easy to skin Web Wiz with a css stylesheet? Thanks.
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Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 4:22am
hi,
i have not used or seen punBB
i have seen upsized Access databases that have over 100,000 posts and topics and they have run fine,.
upsized = changed to MS SQL , they run as good as they can and are quite fast
www.trustedtradesmen.com/forum is one i have done and has 51,000 posts
feel free to check the generation times.
im not to sure on the difference between Microsoft SQL server 2000 and 7
i think it maybe just bug fixes or are the same thing just called which you wish to call it.
you can change the colours,images and style sheet very easy usig
- change the images in the image folder
- edit the skin_file.asp
- edit the style sheet
the onlything you can't do is edit them from within the Forum application you have to edit them off site and upload them.
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Posted By: Andorin
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 6:39am
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Can moderators do silent edits in Web Wiz? Where can I try a demo of Web Wiz with the admin panel and everything? Tried the Lite Version with free hosts, but couldn't make it work with the database and all that.
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Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 10:45am
moderators can't do silence edits but i have added this feature to one of my forums.
you should be able ot get it running it maybe the path to the database and required to move the database to get it working.
thius is the only way to check it out.
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Posted By: dfrancis
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 11:22am
dj air wrote:
moderators can't do silence edits but i have added this feature to one of my forums.
you should be able ot get it running it maybe the path to the database and required to move the database to get it working.
thius is the only way to check it out.
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Maybe I'm not understanding the term "silent edits" but with the option to display edits set to no, a moderator can edit a post without being detected.
Is that what we're talking about?
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Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 11:41am
ooo yes sorry ive put 2 thins together 
you can turn off showing edits all together.
my refrence to my mod was that showing edits are enabled, but if i edit
a page i can check a button that will not show that i edited the post.
thats what i ment by silent edit 
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Posted By: Andorin
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 2:21pm
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I've found out that hosts with SQL are a lot more expensive than MS Access. With MS Access, I can get a Windows host with 1GB, for three times more money, I only get 25MB with the SQL.. Is MS Access really that bad? The forum is NOT very big, and since it's the most popular version, it can't be that bad? What limitations will affect me? What's that "20 connections" stuff? Only 20 members can log on at the same time or something? I've found a good Windows host with MS Access, and wonder if I should avoid it.
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Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 3:30pm
MS SQL has come down in price alot over the past couple years.
MS Access is ok for a small not to big/active site.
20 c0nnections.
it doesn't mean you can have 20 people online it means you can have
only 20 people connecting to the database at anyone time, and as
queries take microseconds.
you can have more people than 20
but access is a flat file and therefore slows quickly when the size increases. also is likely to corrupt.
who is the host you have found that look ok to you.
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Posted By: Imperator
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 5:01pm
I run an access forum with 110,000 posts and about 265 MB database file
on brinker. It has not run into any major problems so far that are
directly related to the database size/usage. The amount of active users
go up to about 50 and the forum still runs fine.
You're right that SQL hosting is more expensive (especially for a large forum), so that's why I'm still in access.
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Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 5:04pm
i am suprised Brinkster have allowed it to get that big.
the main issue with access is that for ever 1 user that visits the
forum each time they enter a page all 265 meg has to be put into ram ,
which slows the site down but also the webserver. so 2 people on the
forum is using 530 meg of ram
that sort of size i would recommend making Compact and repairs daily
and also backing up daily because it is more likly to corrupt at that
size.
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