Web Wiz Forums version 8 Beta 1 released
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Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.08 - https://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Web Wiz Forums version 8 Beta 1 released
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: Web Wiz Forums version 8 Beta 1 released
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 2:27pm
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http://webwizforums.com - Web Wiz Forums version 8 Beta 1 is released today. After 2 years of development, many late nights, and over 80,000 lines of new and re-written code, the next generation of Web Wiz Forums is now here. Web Wiz Forums version 8 has a completely re-written forum engine focusing on speed and performance to build a fast, robust, engine that can handle extremely large communities for both small and busy sites. The amount of database queries used within Web Wiz Forums has been reduced significantly, with many pages, like the forum index page running with as few as 2 database queries processing the page in under 0.05 seconds, even with over 100 forums and sub forums!! The HTML used with the forum has been undated to XHTML standards and CSS widely used to make page loading and rendering in web browsers much faster, with the added benefit of simple skinning to change the look and feel of Web Wiz Forums. There are many other new and improved features, including, sub forums, post authorisation, http://richtexteditor.org - Web Wiz Rich Text Editor and http://webwizcaptcha.com - Web Wiz CAPTCHA integration, new technologies such as ‘HTML Secure’ for message filtering of malicious code, and many other features, some of which are listed below:-
http://www.webwiz.net/web_wiz_forums/forum_beta_download.asp - Click here join the Web Wiz Forums version 8 beta testing program Version 8 is for beta testing ONLY, as it has many known issues and is not stable. Bugs and Errors Please do not post about bugs and errors in this topic, start and new topic and include as much detail as possiable including database version. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
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Posted By: cyberax
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 2:39pm
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Thanks for the information -borg- Will surely check it out Regards,
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.Posted By: huwnet
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 4:51pm
| Nice thanks for the update |
Posted By: superlative
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 5:28pm
Good job Borg, I will test this beta release when i re-install my Windows 2003 Enterprise Server (apx after 2 days). I like new features http://www.webwiz.net/web_wiz_forums/Version%20History8.txt - (i read this page), I will discover V8  ------------- http://www.knowhow.gen.tr" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: megetron
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 6:01pm
| Is there any DB convertor to the new version? |
Posted By: gölge
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 6:23pm
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Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 6:40pm
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Sweet! I cant wait to get it running in my portal :D :D :D ------------- http://www.iportalx.net" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: miladanimator
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:10pm
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Thnx A Lot -Borg- !!!
Is there database changes needed for update from 7.95 to 8 beta version ?
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Posted By: ramone_johnny
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 10:38pm
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Top stuff. Its very re-assuring to know that the developers have an ongoing commitment to improving this forum.
Good to see a proactive approach !
 RJ
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Posted By: graper
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 12:02am
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-boRg-
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Posted By: mack
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 1:04am
Thank you Borg for releasing beta 1 :)
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Posted By: Mikael
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 9:58am
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Thumbs up for Bruce and his work!
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Posted By: megetron
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 10:15am
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There is a CSS problem. The fonts on sub forums, when I locate mouse on them, grows.
see attached flash file:
http://www.smart-shop.co.il/temp/css.swf - http://www.smart-shop.co.il/temp/css.swf
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 11:00am
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Thanks for all your support everyone. If you have find any bugs please could you post them in their own topics as it makes it very difficult trying to reply to them when they are all together in the same topic, as I have just had to move about 10 to their own topics to be able to reply to them. Also please include and database version you are using. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: mbd2
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 4:55pm
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boRg Thanks you for the new beta release. Question, what would you say is the average beta test time before you put your stamp of approval and make it a "good" version 8?
Second question, If Im running an Access db (26mb in size) would love to convert to mysql or sql is there a conversion program to handle this? Figuring if I'm going to upgrade to 8 now would be the time to change over. Any suggestions? Please PM me becuase this may not be revalent to this topic.
 Thanks for your hard work!
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Posted By: namtoday
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 6:45pm
IT's really a nice job. The forum now is loaded in a second, everything seems to be too fast to catch up  . Cant wait, i really cant wait. I will join the skin contest when it's available.
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Posted By: Sander
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 11:44pm
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boRg, thanks for releasing V8. Beta 1! I am still a happy user of your forums.
Got V8 up & running and it looks very nice! So, again, thanks for this great piece of software. |
Posted By: Ozan
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 4:01pm
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Thanks -borg- very good |
Posted By: Imperator
Date Posted: 14 January 2006 at 5:25pm
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Nice update. I also second the question posted eariler: If we are converting from 7.x, are there any procedures that will be necessary (eg. with the database)? I have a huge access database. |
Posted By: 1981
Date Posted: 14 January 2006 at 10:06pm
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hi borg
ı use "dsn " but web wiz 8 , ı cant see dsn choice
ı use this early web wiz 'If you wish to use DSN then comment out the driver above and uncomment the line below (DSN is slower than the above drivers) strCon = "DSN=name" 'Place the DSN where you see DSN_NAME but web wiz 8
there is only
'Database driver (Microsoft JET OLE DB driver version 4) strCon = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0; Data Source=" & strDbPathAndName |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 15 January 2006 at 12:14am
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Posted By: arya
Date Posted: 15 January 2006 at 7:14pm
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great release it seems to be very very fast . good to get rid of the annoying pop up for profiles
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Posted By: superlative
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 7:11am
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Off-topic
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megetron wrote:Posted By: MisterB
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 2:39am
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Does this version include a rewrite of the admin pages so that the skin file used for the forum works on the admin pages? I just get tired of having to update that stuff..... |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 9:41am
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Skins do work on the admin area as well
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Posted By: conxion
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 3:18pm
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hi -boRg-, How is your WWF8 development these days? I'm looking for a schedule of next beta/final release. Would you please tell me where to find it?
Thanks,
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 5:23pm
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If you check the version 8 development blog topic I have posted updates on the version 8 devlopment since the beta 1 release.
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Posted By: VNWWF
Date Posted: 21 January 2006 at 11:32am
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Thanks for update |
Posted By: JP28
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 11:48am
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It appears web wiz forums is not written using the .net framework. Is this planned for future, or if not why the preference for ASP?
Thanks
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 1:41pm
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An ASP.NET version is planned. Although ASP still seems more popular than ASP.NET more people are starting to move across to it. I had a meeting last Friday to look into ASP.NET and workout ways to implement a version of Web Wiz Forums in it. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: MortiOli
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 6:30pm
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Apologies if this sounds like an obvious question, and being off topic...
What advantages would people get from an ASP.NET version, to the existing standard ASP version?
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 2:11pm
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ASP.NET is the replacement from Microsoft to ASP. ASP is no-longer being developed by MS and ASP.NET has many advantages, including higher performance as it compiles ASP.NET code. Over the coming years people will start moving across to ASP.NET, with ASP eventually becoming obsolete. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: JCH2
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 2:25pm
| With the exception that ASP is supported on some non-Windows web servers and ASP.NET is not to my knowledge. Though most of the non-Windows people are more and more gravitating to PHP. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 2:37pm
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ASP on non-windows OS's is written by third parties and not Microsoft so do not fully support ASP. Web Wiz Forums will only run on a Windows OS, and not any other OS supporting ASP. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: mack
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 4:53pm
All of .NET is compiled to a code called MSIL. This MSIL allows for the application too be ported to other operating systems. The .NET framework is a JIT "Just In Time" compiler, meaning when you run a .NET application it compiles it on-the-fly. Java also works like this, but .NET creates a cache of the file in native code, therefore it doesn't have that slow load times like JAVA. Basically, java uses a "Virtual Machine". It is also compiled to its own code (like MSIL), which is why it's so portable. You can infact run .NET applications on almost any OS. Here is so more information: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page for the MONO.NET project http://www.mono-project.com/ASP.NET for the MONO.NET ASP.NET project. So yea, ASP.NET can run just as good on Apache servers. |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 3:24am
Well, one benefit of using ASP and PHP over ASP.NET is that it is NOT compiled. I'm not sure if its a requirement, but some web apps that were designed for me in ASP.NET were compiled, which means that I cannot edit it and make changes myself since I don't have an ASP.NET Editor and Compiler. And worse, the web designer didn't give me the original code, which meant I could't change it and recompile it myself even if I wanted to. With ASP and PHP, I can whip out a text editor if I want and make changes to the code. Because of that I have had to rewrite all the ASP.NET code they wrote for me into either ASP or PHP, which is something I can modify myself without an ASP.NET compiler.
I am very glad WWF is not written in ASP.NET. With it being in ASP, I can customize it and integrate it into my website because the source code is included. And WWF is documented very well, I might add, which made it easy for an ASP newbie like I was to do what I needed to do to get things working the way I wanted.
ASP.NET is good for professional web developers who want to prevent you from changing the code, in order to force you to pay them for changes. Or forcing you to accept whatever they offer (i.e. you can't ask Microsoft to change Microsoft Word just for you no matter how much you pay them).
ASP is good for webmasters who want to modify the original code of the script they purchased or who want to build upon a good script to create something unique, and not have to pay a developer to do simple changes they can do themselves for free.
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Posted By: MortiOli
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 2:03pm
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Ah right!
Thanks for all the info everyone! It's all much clearer now!
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Posted By: qwer
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 4:57pm
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I am currently using version 7.91 I changed my server and updated to beta version of 8. then I transfred the database. But it shows some errors. So member_profile.asp?PF=1&FID=2 - -boRg- please tell me how i can transfer my database to another server and how can I update to 8 without any error. Thank u |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 5:10pm
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Version 8 is for beta testing ONLY, as it has many known issues and is not stable. If you want to use Web Wiz Forums on a live site use the latest 7.97 version. A database upgrade tool will not become available until a stable RC (Release Candidate) version is released. If you choose to ignore official advise and use version 8 on a live site now not only will you have an insecure, unstable forum, but you may not be able to upgrade to the full version when it is released. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: nicher
Date Posted: 28 January 2006 at 7:39am
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Hi Borg,
Sorry for rashing you but I'm really curious about the release date of the stable version of WWF 8...
I'm waiting for it in order to be able to move to a mySQL storage, and I'm counting on it to help me cut my expenses (less expensive of course).
Is there something in the horizon?
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Posted By: qwer
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:09am
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Thank You for the advice... I probably will be waitting for the final stable version to release. And then I hope the current version 7.91 which i am using now, can be updated to 8.00 and can change the server safely too. I have 2409 active members in my forum which i dont want to loose at any cost. member_profile.asp?PF=1&FID=18 - -boRg- God bless with your work... |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 12:19pm
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If you are using 7.91 you should upgrade ASAP to 7.97, the latest satble release.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 12:21pm
The problem with giving an exact date is that I don't know what will come up and how long verious testing and coding will take. At the present rate I'm hoping to have an Release Candate version out sometime before Spring this year and hope to have a beta 2 out before the end of February. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: nicher
Date Posted: 29 January 2006 at 6:56pm
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Ok thank you, I'm really loking forward to get it
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Posted By: niugiovanni
Date Posted: 30 January 2006 at 12:27pm
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I'm in the same boat as the individual that you just replied to. Thank you for the time frame estimate.
I'm unfamiliar with the DB change releases that require scripts to upgrade. Does the community generally provide those and are scripts established to change over from just about any combination of DB types. I'll be changing from 7.97 MS SQL to 8.0 MySQL. |