Web Wiz Forums v8 b2 alpha 2 Test
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Topic: Web Wiz Forums v8 b2 alpha 2 Test
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: Web Wiz Forums v8 b2 alpha 2 Test
Date Posted: 06 February 2006 at 5:09pm
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This forum, on this site, is now running alpha 2 of the next version. This is to test out the new session system to track users, that is also cookies-less, so cookies are no-longer required to use Web Wiz Forums. If you would like to test this and give feedback on the new system, then please try using this forum with cookies disabled in your browser. If tests on this site are sucessful the new cookie-less session ssytem will be part of version 8 beta 2, due to be released towards the end of this month. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 06 February 2006 at 5:10pm
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Before anyone asks, you will need to re-login after disabling cookies on your browser.
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Posted By: VBScript
Date Posted: 06 February 2006 at 5:30pm
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I am using FireFox, I have blocked cookies for the forums and I have no problems to report so far!
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Posted By: rx7tt
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 12:36am
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Just giving it a quick test in firefox and it is working great. Awesome work as always. -Scott ------------- http://www.mobilegear.biz - Mobile Gear.biz -Ringtones, games, videos, links and more... http://www.mobilegear.biz/forum/ - Wireless Forums |
Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 1:37am
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Im not sure about this, but if someone is browsing a website and their IP changes, doesnt their session ID also reset (even if the browser is left open)?
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Posted By: thataintchicken
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 2:39am
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It seems to work well. Good job!
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Posted By: megetron
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 10:03am
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on the current site:
I am sending PM, and after each PM message box prompts : "There is 1 new message"
after sending the second PM I get another message box:
"There is 2 new messages"
I am using Pro with all updates.
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Posted By: megetron
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 10:07am
| The current version on site, contain all bug fixes from the released beta version? |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 1:05pm
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Most of the bugs from the current beta version are fixed, but there are some known issues like skins, CSS, db table prefix, etc. that are still to be looked at
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 1:17pm
This is very true, but then I came across an article on PhpBB that explained how they got around this issue, so borrowed the idea from them:- http://www.phpbb.com/kb/article.php?article_id=54 - http://www.phpbb.com/kb/article.php?article_id=54 By checking only the first 3 quads in the IP address this should prevent issues where the IP address of the user changes from proxy to proxy, but as 3 quads are used (24 bit) this should be enough to deter any hacker from using session ID's to gain access to a forum. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
MadDog wrote:Posted By: site master
Date Posted: 07 February 2006 at 2:22pm
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how the hell did you do this?
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Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 12:52am
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I am also using Firefox and have had no problem so far with cookies disabled. Very cool. :) Jim |
Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 1:03am
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No problem with cookie-less login on Opera 8 either. Not sure if it could be related, but the page generation was incredibly slow.
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Posted By: MadDog
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 4:30am
That still seams like it would leave a big open whole for hackers if they where using the same ISP and their IP was almost identical but i will trust you and see how it works out. ------------- http://www.iportalx.net" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 12:50pm
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As you say MadDog it could be a security risk, but using the security mesaures mentioned it is only slight risk, and PhpBB seem to have been using this for quite a while without any issues. You also have to remember that for most users cookies are used, so it would be very difficult for the hacker to get the session ID and would be the same level of risk as for the present User ID stored in cookies. For those that don't have cookies enabled, the hacker still has to get hold of the session ID, which would mean getting access to the users own machine to see the 32 bit session ID appended to URL's in the querystring. If a user accidently posts a link in a post etc. with their session ID attached, then it could be a slight security risk, but also combining it with an IP address and the session only being valid for 20 minutes should be adequate protection in most cases. I will also look for a way that the session ID is stripped from any links the user posts in the forum. This should also add a bit more protection. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: megetron
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 2:33pm
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Coockies system works just fine on IE beta2. I experienced some issues with the "Quick Reply" box. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 2:37pm
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IE 7 beta 2 does have some bugs in the browser itself, to do with the display updating correctly when using it's RTE API. Hopefully Microsoft will sort this issue out before the final release, or some wrokaround will need to be found whereby IE 7 is forced to continualy refresh the display for the RTE. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: megetron
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 2:39pm
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dsfdsI post a message that needs approval from the moderator, and the post is located in the beginnig of the others threads that already been approved. IE 7 Beta 2...
Another issue, sometimes I see no characters that I type on the keybord, when I am trying to post a new message.
Whenn I delete something it fails to be deledted..something working here very bad, and I can't tell if this problem is IE 7 issue, ot WWF issues...
I have latest version of IE beta 7.
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Posted By: megetron
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 2:40pm
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OK then..ignore the other issues,,,
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Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 12:39am
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After coming back (on FF) without cookies today I find that I have to keep logging back in. Jim |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 11:36am
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Is the SID number appended to your URL changing as you browse around the forum? And do you know if your IP address is changing? ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: shovel
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 7:27pm
After about 20 pages the SID number has remained the same. My IP address is fixed. Jim |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 1:13pm
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I'm not sure why, if the SID number remains the same why you are being logged out. I'll have to run more tests and look into it. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: __n3o__
Date Posted: 21 February 2006 at 1:48pm
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Probably the wrong place... But Bruce just thought I'd say this on behalf of everyone... Your a legend  !! Very much looking forward to the finished V8.... Your doing an amazing job 
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 21 February 2006 at 2:44pm
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Thanks
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Posted By: __n3o__
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 8:25am
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Just to let you know.... Whever I click on a link to here either from in the forum or from an email notification I am not logged in - But if I open my browser from my shortcut and browse to the same page I am  .... Also I tried to re-login via the link and it would not let me?? |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 10:38am
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Please could you give more details so these errors can be replicated:- Are you using cookies or not? When exactly does this happen? What link are you using to re-login? If you are using the forum with cookies disabled, then for security reasons the session ID is not appended to the URL in the email, so in these circumstances you will need to log back in again. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: __n3o__
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 11:23am
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Apologies.... (I am using cookies & Firefox 1.5)... For example I received an email saying you had replied to this thread, click the link in the email to write a response and when the page loads I am not logged in. So still with the same browser window open 'ctrl-T' for a new tab, click 'Web Wiz' on my favourites and I'm now posting because I'm already logged in?? ... Very strange!?Also ... I have just tried to log in through the window (That I got to from the email link) it will not let me login (Just keeps saying username or password incorrect)? I know I am using the corect user and password as its stored in FF and I have manually typed it in as well.... Weird hey!! |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 12:13pm
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eeemmm very strange. The URL's in the email and your shortcut, are they the same? The reason I ask is that if the www. part is missed in one of the URL's, or one URL is the .com link and the other the .info, then this may make a diffrence with cookies etc. eg:- www.webwiz.net webwiz.net www.webwiz.net webwiz.net All these URL's above will be seen as different domains by your web browser, so cookie will not be shared between them ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: __n3o__
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 12:31pm
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Ah Haaaa.... Link in my browser: http://forums.webwiz.net/default.asp?C=2 Link from the email: http://forums.webwiz.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=18290&PN=3  |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 12:36pm
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That's probably the problem then, although why you can't login on the .info domain seems a little odd. I'll have to test more fully, but I've not had anyone else reporting login issues at present. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: megetron
Date Posted: 22 February 2006 at 4:17pm
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I experience 2 problems.
1. the first is on IE. I activate the "show script error" option in the IE Advanced settings, and I get script error when login. the login success but a script error displayed. see image:
http://smart-shop.co.il/script_error.JPG - http://smart-shop.co.il/script_error.JPG
2. On FireFox, I was trying logged in, and I failed. I got a forum message that prompt me to check if there is coockies enabled on the browser.
I have never changed any settings of the FireFox, and this is a new installation of the product. maybe this is a new version, any way I downloaded it yesterday.
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Posted By: maingray
Date Posted: 23 February 2006 at 2:44am
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Haven't seen this anywhere, but prob havent looked hard enough
When I paste or type in a url to the "edit post" box with firefox, it doesn't recognize it as a link. It will with IE6 (or 7). The use of [url] tags work fine in FF. |
Posted By: cmeurer
Date Posted: 23 February 2006 at 3:13am
| After you post a new topic, you can't see the subject of the post you just wrote on the summary page. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 23 February 2006 at 11:14am
This topic is for the Alpha test version on this site, and not the beta version you have downloaded. The present beta 1 version does have bugs and have been addressed with a new login system now being tested on this site. Please keep this topic to the new login system being tested on this site and not reports on the Beta 1 version. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: megetron
Date Posted: 23 February 2006 at 3:44pm
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I am talking about the version on the site and not the one I have downloaded. This version: version 8.0 b2 alpha 2 Any way, after I restart my PC, the firefox problem has been gone. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 23 February 2006 at 4:08pm
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Sorry I saw the part saying you downloaded it yesterday and as the alpha version is not yet available for download presumed you were referring to the beta 1 download that is completely different to the version currently being tested on this site.
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Posted By: rowdyvdveen
Date Posted: 24 February 2006 at 3:52pm
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When hitting the Memberlist icon the following error is displayed: ----- (in red box) Error You must be a registered forum member in order to use this feature. ----- function CheckForm () { var errorMsg = ""; var formArea = document.getElementById('frmLogin'); //Check for a Username if (formArea.name.value==""){ errorMsg += "\n\tUsername \t- Enter your Forum Username"; } //Check for a Password if (formArea.password.value==""){ errorMsg += "\n\tPassword \t- Enter your Forum Password"; } Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a01f4' Variable is undefined: 'blnCAPTCHArequired' /bbs/includes/login_form_inc.asp, line 75 |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 24 February 2006 at 4:16pm
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Thanks, it should be fixed now
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Posted By: VBScript
Date Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:51pm
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I dont know if this has been mentioned but the active topics and search
page, line 111 (approx.) does not use the database table prefix
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 27 February 2006 at 11:19am
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Database table prefixes will not be in place till the final version is released to help with debugging and performance tuning SQL queries. I have been reading a book on SQL performance tuning over the weekend and hope to test some improved database and SQL on this forum sonetime today to try and improve performance. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |