Does FireFox lie?
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Topic: Does FireFox lie?
Posted By: MadDog
Subject: Does FireFox lie?
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 6:00pm
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I found this today when searching for something, i found it very interesting (even though i still use FireFox): http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html - http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html ------------- http://www.iportalx.net" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: samb
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 8:55pm
| I just read that. i was well surprised. I just switched to using firefox because of IE7 beta 2 when i tried typing things on forums the writing didnt come up. I like firefox i will still use it. I find it a bit slow loading web pages but is still good |
Posted By: aks427
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 9:03pm
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I have always found FF to be slower than IE and Opera... I don't know where they get their 'faster' part from.
I use a combination of IE, Firefox and Opera. I haven't found any of them to be perfect. 
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 11:15pm
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I like the FF extensions quite a bit. The developer toolbar is great but I understand there's one out for IE now. Always found it slow to load though - definately not faster browsing. I always validate sites with FF and Opera then tyry to applu the hacks to make yhem look ok in IE. Find it easier to make cross-browser compatible sites that if I designed for IE first then hacked for FF/Opera. I tried that Avant browser he mentioned a long time ago. Didn't like it, but don't remember why - memory is the 2nd thing to go. ------------- 
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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 05 April 2006 at 8:03am
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I have combination of Firefox, IE6 and IE6 running wit restricted user rights.. i am nearly satisfied..tho i dont like the fact the firefox browser is hogging too much memory by todays standards
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Posted By: Tegwin
Date Posted: 05 April 2006 at 11:30pm
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Yes I think that FF is slower than IE, but thats only if you have all the extensions applied. Without them it is fast as you like. |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 06 April 2006 at 11:20am
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I've tried many of them myself, and none are perfect. I use Firefox 1.5 for some of my browsing because of some of the extentions, but I also use IE 6 as well. Both give me memory problems since I tend to have many websites open at the same time. IE 6 tend to slow down the computer and cause a lot of disk swapping when you have too many browser windows open at the same time, but FireFox 1.5 crashes! I've seen both FireFox 1.5 and IE 6 take up more than 100MB of RAM at times, sometimes as much as 200MB of RAM! Right now I have 4 FireFox browser windows open, one of them with two tabs open, and its already taking up 77MB of RAM. If you use up all of your physical RAM and FireFox disk cache, FireFox will crash. I used to use Opera a long time ago, but I stopped using it when they discontinued a feature I used (co-branded Opera). I never upgraded and then the old version started having more and more problems with websites. So I went back to IE. Recently I tried FireFox. I think I may try Opera again and see if its better. It would be nice if it would solve my memory problem with IE and Firefox taking up all the RAM. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: Gullanian
Date Posted: 06 April 2006 at 2:17pm
| I'm not sure if it's been update now, I emailed FireFox about it but they didn't really take much notice. When I was writing extensions, you could include and file from an external website and execute it as a script. Theoretically you could change the external script at any moment and use it to collect cookies etc. |
Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 06 April 2006 at 2:58pm
Opera 8.x is pretty slick but I know of several people who prefer features found in older versions that wer later dropped. Are you using any browser for co-branding? I used IE years ago but they dropped the co-branding program overnight. Woke up to a lot of calls the next day - lol. Stayed away from it after that but I think it might be time to revisit the co-branding idea. -------------
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wistex wrote:Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 11 April 2006 at 2:05am
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I tried Opera again. Not bad. Nothing really stood out for me though, although it did seem faster loading on many pages.
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Posted By: ZenGalDC
Date Posted: 12 April 2006 at 11:21pm
Interesting, I have used FF for about 3 months and find it to be substantially faster than IE. |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 2:55am
That depends on a couple of things:
If both are true, IE seems to be slightly faster in my experience. But I also keep a clean computer. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 3:45am
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Some of the extensions and skins for FF slow it down a lot, but I like them to much to give them up.
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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 4:17am
That's probably it. I do have a bunch of really nifty extensions that make my life a lot easier as a webmaster. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 9:17am
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nothing satisfies me more than IE - im loyal.. tho FF is good as secondry browers and to visit this site.. i can log in onto this site using IE
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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 9:37am
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If MS does things right with IE, I'd switch back. But they'll have a
long way to go as I've got some killer plugins for FF that I won't give
up.
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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 10:31am
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I use both, actually. So I can realistically compare them side by side. As a web developer, its good to test out your pages in multiple browsers anyway. They don't all render your page the same way.
On some computers I have IE, and others I have FireFox (IE is still there, I just rarely use it on machines where I have FireFox installed). The extensions in FireFox are wonderful and part of the reason why I use FireFox on some of my machines. IE works great too and most of my visitors use IE, so I also browse my website in IE too.
As far as the person who said they are loyal to Microsoft. Well, I'm about as loyal to Microsoft as they are to me. I use their products that are good and affordable, and I use alternate products when they are good and affordable. I try to get the best value for my money, and get the best solution for the task at hand. Sometimes Microsoft wins, sometimes it doesn't. I'm not one of those who picks a camp and is blinded by the propaganda. Microsoft does make some good stuff... they also have made some real crap... and sometimes it just isn't what I need and someone else makes something better.
I'm impressed with FireFox about as much as I am impressed with IE. Both have some strong points, but neither are really superior in my mind. Both have benefits and drawbacks. Maybe that's why I use both, so I can take advantage of the benefits of both. :) ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: ZenGalDC
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 3:23pm
| For me, working from an office computer on a network that I can't really have much control over/insight into (i.e. no idea how clean it is) FF seems to work the best. |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 8:22pm
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Without extensions, I think it is faster. Of course, part of the speed boost is how it renders tables. IE waits for the whole table to load before displaying it. FF starts to display it instantly, guessing what it should look like on the fly. This is why FF often appears "jumpy" when it loads some pages. At first it annoyed me, but now I got used to it. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: pilot99
Date Posted: 17 April 2006 at 5:06pm
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i found that to be a very interesting article i still use ie alot cause im just used to it but i accasionally use opera, netscape, and firefox to ensure that my website show up correct in all browsers. ------------- http://www.globaltornado.com"> 
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Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 18 April 2006 at 9:19am
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Sometimes, seems like Firefix proxy settings are stuck. No matter how many
times you change them, as soon as you restart firefox they will revert back.
Crap!!
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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 20 April 2006 at 4:03am
I almost forgot about Netscape. The last time I tried that (when they came out with their comeback release) it was so bloated that I uninstalled it because it was so slow. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 21 April 2006 at 10:50pm
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and not to mention.. it needed the java VM ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss">
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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 7:30am
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That could be why it was so slow, but then again, OpenOffice.org 2.x needs Java VM and OpenOffice.org isn't that slow.
I think they just tried to fit way to much stuff into Netscape.
Its like one of my PCs. The hard drive crashed on it. So I had install a new hard drive and reinstall everything including the OS and all the programs. Instead of using a restore disk, I installed everything from scratch and the computer was 10 times faster without all the bundled stuff that the OEM puts on there. Its all those unnecessary extra features running in the background that kills your speed. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 22 April 2006 at 1:07pm
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i hate those oem restore cds.. i never used... even when i grab a branded PC of the shelf..first thing i go is to format it with a retail cd and get rid of that crappy oem install...even worst..the oem CD's are usually ghost images coming off a mass duplicating machine.. not the best thing to do if you are seeking performance.. ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss">
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