Newly Registered User's IP Address?
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Topic: Newly Registered User's IP Address?
Posted By: iSec
Subject: Newly Registered User's IP Address?
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 3:57am
I recall Borg mentioning that newly registered users will have their IP address recorded in version 8 of WWFs. Now, there is a user that keeps registering with offensive usernames and I am unable to track who he is or at least get his IP so I can ban him. Is there an option that allow me as an admin to do so...?
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 9:24am
IP addresses are not recorded when a user registers.
However, there are other methods that can be used, such as email activation used with email address and email domain banning. You can also setup the forum so the admin has to activate new accounts.
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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 25 April 2006 at 7:35pm
The forum is currently setup so that admin is needed to activate new accounts. The thing is, he uses fake email addresses, and his one aim is to have his offensive username show up in the forum statstics, that's all. He does not post or anything. I do not wish to disable the forum stat feature but I still don't want his name to appear in the forum stats beause it offends a lot of other members.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 26 April 2006 at 10:15am
If you look in your sites own log files you should find the users IP address in there.
You have the time he registered an account, so all you need to do is look in your sites log file for the IP address of the person who used the file register.asp at that same time.
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Posted By: Fabio71m
Date Posted: 04 May 2006 at 2:57pm
Info_Tech wrote:
I recall Borg mentioning that newly registered users will have their IP address recorded in version 8 of WWFs. Now, there is a user that keeps registering with offensive usernames and I am unable to track who he is or at least get his IP so I can ban him. Is there an option that allow me as an admin to do so...? |
Borg wrote:
IP addresses are not recorded when a user registers.
However, there are other methods that can be used, such as email activation used with email address and email domain banning. You can also setup the forum so the admin has to activate new accounts. |
Hi Borg, I am having the same trouble. New users register with no details at all, don't know who are they, no name, no email address, no location, no IP adress etc,. I block them and they come back again with a different user name. My forum admin page hasn't got this option that new users have to activate the account from the administrator. What shall I do? Please help.
Thanks.
------------- Fabio
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 04 May 2006 at 3:15pm
If you are using version 8 then there will be an option under the email notification setup page to have the forum admin activate new member registrations.
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Posted By: Fabio71m
Date Posted: 04 May 2006 at 4:44pm
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Thank you Bruce. Found it, it's working fine.
Regards,
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Posted By: MortiOli
Date Posted: 05 May 2006 at 12:40pm
Info_Tech wrote:
The forum is currently setup so that admin is needed to activate new accounts. |
If it's currently set for Admin to activate accounts, can't you just not active them / delete them?
If the usernames are showing up in the stats, even when they haven't been activated, maybe some coding needs to be put into place so the stats only show activated members.
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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 10:44am
Borg, to get on some of the global white lists for AOL, Yahoo!, MSN, etc. a website must record the IP address people used when they signed up on the website (because signing up enables features such as e-mail notification). Currently WWF does not do this, it only records the IP address of when they post, meaning WWF websites do not qualify to get on some of these global white lists.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 11:09am
It's a shame that no-one mentioned this before version 8 was released.
This will mean that such a feature will have to wait for version 9 as it would require a database change to support such a feature.
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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 11 May 2006 at 12:00pm
I just found out about it myself.
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Posted By: MortiOli
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 4:32pm
-boRg- wrote:
It's a shame that no-one mentioned this before version 8 was released.This will mean that such a feature will have to wait for version 9 as it would require a database change to support such a feature.
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Could you possibly release it as a 'service pack' for version 8, with a file to update the database occordingly?
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 9:48am
Possibly.
I have started reading a book on DotNetNuke, after having an email from one of the developers over there, and I have got some ideas from it on making the install and update process much smoother.
So I am planning on creating a whole new install/update process for Web Wiz Forums, which will also allow database schema updates between minor versions, which I have always avoided before in the past.
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Posted By: Imperator
Date Posted: 17 May 2006 at 5:32am
Would it be possible to make it so that the IP address of the
registered user is sent to the admin in the activation email? I think
that would be a very effective measure since the admin can easily check
the location that the IP is coming from. Since nothing is permanently
stored, it shouldn't require any database changes.
Another idea that doesn't involve a database change is to make an
automated bot user that automatically posts the IPs of new users in a
designated forum post. For example, every time a user registers, the
bot automatically updates a post in the moderators' forum. That way,
all of the new information are stored in forum posts and hence would
not require any database changes. (Although this is far more complex than the idea above)
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 17 May 2006 at 9:49am
This is a very simple change and I have just added to the admin activation email for the next version.
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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 18 May 2006 at 3:48am
MortiOli wrote:
If it's currently set for Admin to activate accounts, can't you just not active them / delete them?
If the usernames are showing up in the stats, even when they haven't been activated, maybe some coding needs to be put into place so the stats only show activated members. |
Yes I can delete them but I don't even want them to show up! Sometimes I don't get a chance to view my forum for 24 hours to take care of it and that offensive nick will be on the stat at the bottom of the forum for that tim and it annoys others who visit the forum.
-boRg- wrote:
Possibly.
I have started reading a book on DotNetNuke, after having an email from one of the developers over there, and I have got some ideas from it on making the install and update process much smoother.
So I am planning on creating a whole new install/update process for Web Wiz Forums, which will also allow database schema updates between minor versions, which I have always avoided before in the past.
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Will that take too long to finish and be released?
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 May 2006 at 9:52am
I've not even had the time to start writing it yet!!
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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 18 May 2006 at 10:17am
-boRg- wrote:
I've not even had the time to start writing it yet!! |
The reason I asked is because I'm about to release a new design of my personal site and I was wondering if it is a matter of weeks/months for you to have it done.
I'm afraid that I won't be able to upgrade like last time in which I lost 1000 members and about 6000 topics. I have an arcade mod on my forum which has its own database tables so upgrading is not easy for me, and I thought I should wait for you to release the next edition 
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 May 2006 at 2:06pm
The actual upgrade process will not change from the separate tool you can download already which works very well at updating the database schema.
I just plan on making a new tool that will make it simpler to run the same upgrade tool.
If you modify the database schema yourself it will always course issues when upgrading the database. You will need to remove any changes you have made to the database first before upgrading.
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Posted By: nexus
Date Posted: 18 May 2006 at 11:07pm
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I have never understood why it's so hard to update DB schemas between minor versions? Isn't it just to add a new field to DB. I guess it's that easy if your DB is unmodified.. or?
And for peoples with modified DBs: Couldn't they just open DB localy on their computer and then just add the necessary field to it manually?
Would you mind elaborating for me why it isn't that easy.. 'cause I would really love to understand it much better :D Or maybe you could point to a website explaining more detailed how it works?
BTW: Is it possible to make it so that WWF automatically redirects you to the last page you viewed, instead of always returning you to the forum frontpage.
As it is now, if I view this topic and isn't logged in when I hit the reply button, then WWF will ask for my login-details and thereafter transfer me to main forum page instead of the same page as I selected the reply-button from.
Annoying if your on page 3 in a topic located on page 8 in a sub-forum.... and needs to find your way back to that certain topic after login ;o)
Cheers!
Kristoffer
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 May 2006 at 9:58am
Some of the early versions use to make database changes between minor versions, but I quickly learned that most people are not database savy.
To me a you adding a new database column is simple, but to many people altering a database is far beyond them.
Look at version 8, even supplying a tool to update the database schema many people are to scared to use it and so have not, or will not update to version 8.
I find that database changes are best only done once in a while, which is why they only occur for major new releases.
As to your suggestion, it will be looked into.
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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 19 May 2006 at 10:10am
Some of the people who download the forum don't even know what a database is or what ASP is. Sometimes you even get people who download WWF and try to install it on a Linux web server not realizing that it won't work because they assume all web hosting is the same.
And for some people, changing the code is hard enough, but asking them to alter the database is downright scary, not to mention dangerous.
But, one thing that can be done that would solve this whole problem is install scripts. This is becoming more and more common, even to the point where some forum and CMS and blog systems detect when there is a new version and offer administrators the option to install the new version automatically just by going through a web-based interface.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 May 2006 at 10:15am
This is the root I am planning on going down, but as I am moving office at the moment and attempting to setup an SBS 2003 system, it is a very busy time. I've still not managed to also get the office telephone system back up, which uses VOIP.
Once this is complete I hope to have more time to spend on coding, and also looking at taking on some part-time staff to help out with the admin side and all the paper work that is piling up.
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Posted By: nexus
Date Posted: 19 May 2006 at 3:44pm
Okey, I now see what the problem is :D
I definetively see both wistex' and -borg-s points, but I really hope it's possible to be able to add db changes also to minor versions, because I get a feeling that only altering the DB between major version have a big downside too. Many good features and functions are put waay forward in time due to this db problem.. and that is a shame.
So it would be really cool if we could find a good solution on how to solve this. I know many users are not capable of altering the code or DB, but I don't believe that sould count so much that it forces -borg- to only make db changes ever 2nd year or so :D
Cheers!
Kristoffer
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