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Topic: Images not showing correctly
Posted By: russnj2
Subject: Images not showing correctly
Date Posted: 18 June 2006 at 12:06pm
I have several users that have a problem with images not showing up correctly in posts. What happens is that they only see about the first inch or so of the image. This seems to be happening since installing 8.02.

Here is a screen shot from a user. The correct image should be about 5 inches tall.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Russ









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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 10:20am
This will be a CSS problem, but without knowing what browser it is that your user is using I can not do tests to find a solution to this issue.

Could you findout what browsers is being used and on what platform?


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Posted By: russnj2
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 12:56pm
A user on my board has narrowed it down to the forum_posts.asp page.
Line 917
<td valign="top" height="150" class="msgLineDevider">

I removed the
height="150"
and the problem goes away. And all still looks ok with other browsers.
SBC Yahoo is a version of IE I believe.

Any ideas?

Thanks
Russ



Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 2:04pm
The problem russnj2, is if you remove that line then the tables containing the posts are not formatted correctly.

You end up getting the post with only 1 or 2 lines in the middle of the table with 2 lines above and below them, with the 'IP logged' icon halfway up the side.


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Posted By: russnj2
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 3:37pm
Not the whole line just the "height=150" part. Check it out.

http://66.70.101.194/forums/ - http://66.70.101.194/forums/

Russ


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 3:56pm
The height="150" is the part I am on about.

Just look at the following post on your site now you have made the change:-

http://66.70.101.194/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=520&PID=2407#2407

The post is in the middle instead of at the top, with the lines at the top and bottom wrapped tightly around the text in the middle, it shouldn't appear like that.


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Posted By: russnj2
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 4:21pm
Ok, now I see it. I did not notice that. I will get the OS version from the user.

Thanks
Russ


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 4:59pm
Could you also find out what exact browser they are using?

If it is something totally uncommon it maybe a case they need to upgrade their browser.


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Posted By: russnj2
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 6:22pm
He is still running win 95.
SBC Yahoo! Browser   
Product version 1.0.02.409   
File version 2002.04.24.05 
SBC Yahoo! Dial version 2.00-004.ACIX

This started after going from 7.96 to 8.02.

Thanks
Russ


Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 6:49pm
As this is not an OS that has been supported by MS for a long time, and an uncommon browser, I can not even setup a test platform to test this on.

I think it best to ask this user to upgrade their browser to the latest version of IE or Firefox.


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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 6:55pm
I've got to think that that's an ie v4 browser. No support for css height or width. The forum won't be the only site the user is having trouble with. Most designers are dropping ie 4 and netscape 4 compatibility as so few people are still using them.

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:56pm
Legacy support for IE 4 and Netscape 4 support was finally dropped from version 8 of web wiz forums as the number of people still using these browsers are like 0.01%

This allowed improved page rendering speeds, smaller pages files, less bandwidth, easier to implement skins, and better support for CSS and XHTML.

As browsers are generally free, it seems silly not to upgrade to a newer version.


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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 12:40am
The user was running win 95 though. MS dropped support for that some time ago. I doubt that there's a browser upgrade available. I don't even know if firefox will run on it.

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Posted By: SMR Group
Date Posted: 20 June 2006 at 4:47am
For what it's worth, "height" isn't valid HTML for a table, row or cell tag.  A couple of ways around it would be to add the value as a style, or use a 1×1 pixel transparent image set to 125 height and put that in the cell.


Posted By: BrownGhost
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 3:58pm

im having same problem exact same place, and here its just text, links and some smilys.
the post can bee seen okay in Firefox newest
The post one can only see 10% of it in IE winxp total updated my own system

the code line problem is here.
  <td valign="top" height="150" class="msgLineDevider">
   <!-- Start Member Post -->

The exact code problem is the height="150"

Now there must be a way for us to make it work, whit Firefox and IE.
if not, then wwf is now just a forum for one browser :(

my site has i think 75% IE users and 20% Firefox. the last 5% are what ever.

WWF must work with IE and Firefox..

Any one got any ideas on how to solve this issue.



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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 9:56am
You will only get this issue in IE if you have removed the XHTML document definition tag from the includes/browser_page_encoding.asp file:-

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" dir="ltr" lang="en">

If you remove this you will get the problem mentioned here.


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Posted By: BrownGhost
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 4:40pm
i have not removed thet line. its still there :(
the post is here you can see it your self.

Its one long long post but only a littel is showing, in IE

http://www.babesline.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30606 - http://www.babesline.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30606


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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 6:12pm
The line needs to be the first line at the top of the page, looking at your source code you have the following line at the top:-

<!-- Jeg har fjernet Option Explicit  -->

This is preventing IE from loading in the XHTML DTD thus giving your site the problem you mention.


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Posted By: BrownGhost
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 6:36pm
ohhh man :) you are my hero.. works just fine now. thank you.

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Posted By: BrownGhost
Date Posted: 27 June 2006 at 8:38am
B, i have one more qustion for you.
if you look at my sorce forum most pages. i have
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" dir="ltr" lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /><!--//
/* *******************************************************
Application: Web Wiz Forums ver. 8.02
Author: Bruce Corkhill
Info: http://www.webwizforums.com
Available FREE: http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright: Bruce Corkhill ©2001-2006. All rights reserved
******************************************************* */
//-->


<html>
<head>
<TITLE>Babesline.dk Forum, Debat, Erotik. </TITLE>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META NAME="Title" CONTENT="Babesline.dk Erotik, forum, debat">


Dublicate
<html>
<head>

as i in footer have included my site, as forum in integratet in my site.
can i not change the things a bit.
like in file browser_page_encoding_inc.asp
only have this:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">


and change my include to have this.

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" dir="ltr" lang="en">
<head>
<TITLE>Babesline.dk Forum, Debat, Erotik. </TITLE>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META NAME="Title" CONTENT="Babesline.dk Erotik, forum, debat">


to avoide thet dublicate things all over the site??
whould thet give problems to do this you think ?




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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 27 June 2006 at 9:47am
It needs the following line:-

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">



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Posted By: BrownGhost
Date Posted: 27 June 2006 at 3:41pm
that line i would leve in the file   browser_page_encoding_inc.asp

 <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

And change my include top file have this.

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" dir="ltr" lang="en">
<head>
<TITLE>Babesline.dk Forum, Debat, Erotik. </TITLE>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META NAME="Title" CONTENT="Babesline.dk Erotik, forum, debat">

Then the pages should all have the things thy need.

Can i do this whit out getting in to trouble you think?



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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 27 June 2006 at 4:21pm
As long as the line I mention is at the top, then IE will know to use it's XHTML engine to render the page.

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Posted By: BrownGhost
Date Posted: 28 June 2006 at 2:00pm
is the file: browser_page_encoding_inc.asp

inlcuded in all files i the forum that has also

header.asp   included ??

if so i then can make the change whitout problems.


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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 12:17am
no the file is included in all files that are viewed in a web browser and not just those that the header.asp are included in.

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Posted By: BrownGhost
Date Posted: 29 June 2006 at 8:09pm
okay, thanks then i can do the thing i was planning whit no problems :)

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