Advice on WWF based site
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Topic: Advice on WWF based site
Posted By: VBScript
Subject: Advice on WWF based site
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 9:31pm
Hi,
I am thinking of starting a new site based around Web Wis Forums 8. I was hoping I could get a few general suggestions on how I could make a good Forum based site before I waste any money on domain names.
I want to create a site for guitarists, obviously with a forum for discussions. I have a temporary site here: www.james-r.co.uk/userfiles/gf
but i was also hoping that some one has a forum with a large number of members what things I can include to get a successful community.
Thanks In Advance.
------------- http://www.james-r.co.uk" rel="no follow - James
http://www.gotrillian.com/?4498-20" rel="no follow - Trillian - M
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Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:12pm
There's always tabs lol but unlike the million tab sites out there, tabs should be verified to be correct. Their are so many sites out there with guitar tabs and it annoys me at how wrong and how repeated the crap ones are and they all start with "this is 100% correct and if you think it's wrong then you just can't play..."
Apart from that just get as much content and updates as possible.
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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 2:23am
VBScript wrote:
... I want to create a site for guitarists
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Then it should have lots of ads and praise for http://renegademinds.com/Default.aspx?tabid=65 - Guitar & Drum Trainer ~! 
But seriously, you just need to differentiate things to make it worth coming back. Establish yourself as an expert in the field somehow with articles, reviews, tabs that you did or reviewed for accuracy, etc.
And use lots of nifty AJAX for a wow factor. It may sound dumb, but people like it when used appropriately and well. e.g. Gmail.
Use SEO to make the site visible and attractive for search engines.
Network with people to get posters. Post answers to questions in other forums and also reference something on your site. People are the greatest asset for forums, and if you can get a good core number of users, they will drive the forums themselves.
There are a lot of things to consider. But the major two are 1) how do you get people there, and 2) how do you make your site sticky so that people return.
Answer those 2 and you've got things in the right direction.
Cheers,
Ryan
P.S. Wish me luck at the Shareware Industry Awards next week!
------------- http://renegademinds.com/" rel="nofollow - Renegade Minds - Guitar Software http://renegademinds.com/Default.aspx?tabid=65" rel="nofollow - Slow Down Music
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Posted By: VBScript
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 8:13am
The only thing I am really concerned about is SEO.
Can anyone give tips on how I can make sure it gets indexed by all major search engines
------------- http://www.james-r.co.uk" rel="no follow - James
http://www.gotrillian.com/?4498-20" rel="no follow - Trillian - M
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Posted By: VBScript
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 10:30am
What AJAX stuff could I add and I have also updated the site design: http://www.james-r.co.uk/userfiles/gf
------------- http://www.james-r.co.uk" rel="no follow - James
http://www.gotrillian.com/?4498-20" rel="no follow - Trillian - M
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 12:53pm
VBScript wrote:
The only thing I am really concerned about is SEO.
Can anyone give tips on how I can make sure it gets indexed by all major search engines
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- Get links to your site from similar topic sites with high page rank. e.g. post in their forums and include a link to your site in your sig.
- Content... content... content. SE's want to serve relevant content to people who use them. Make sure you have it.
- Content near the top of a page is usually weighted more heavily than content near the bottom.
- Google maxes out at about 100k for a page - code and content. two small pages are better than one huge one.
- Pick your search terms. Don't try to use them all... focus and make sure your content reflects the terms/phrases.
- Have a sitemap page and link to it from your main pages. SE's have problems following javascript links - some SE's more than others. Some javascript menus are easier to follow than others. Links to your sitemap will make sure everything gets indexed.
Indexing takes time - often 3 to 6 months. Google will do a "shallow crawl" first - usually 1 - 2 levels deep off of your home page and then come back later - sometimes months later - to do the rest. On some of your posts in similar topic forums put links to info that's deeper in your site.
Bad links last forever. Use robots.txt to disallow SE access to your site until you are done setting it up and it's structure is final. Think three times before you move/rename any pages or directories after the SE's start visiting. If you absolutely can't live without moving something, in Windows servers use custom error pages to return 301/302 page codes and provide redirects to the moved content.
SEO is a process... not a one time event. The rules change fairly frequently. If it's going to be important to you, Hit some of the SEO forums frequently.
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Posted By: VBScript
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 1:07pm
Thanks for that 
Any critisism for the current site design
------------- http://www.james-r.co.uk" rel="no follow - James
http://www.gotrillian.com/?4498-20" rel="no follow - Trillian - M
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 1:28pm
Laid out OK but seems a little bland. I don't know anything about the guitar community though. Some communities like very functional looks, others like more glitz and eye-candy. Sometimes a site that looks totally different than similar sites sticks in a users mind.
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Posted By: VBScript
Date Posted: 08 July 2006 at 1:31pm
I noticed it looks bland. Any ideas on how I can make it look more appealing.
i know the logo needs to be improved, its crap.
EDIT I want the final product to be something with good features, a combined use of ASP and JavaScript and looks good so people want to come back again and again.
------------- http://www.james-r.co.uk" rel="no follow - James
http://www.gotrillian.com/?4498-20" rel="no follow - Trillian - M
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Posted By: VBScript
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 9:16pm
The site is going quite well. I have even got a temporary domain
dev.guitaristforums.com
I am having trouble with uploading. I using the upload control I have uploaded *.gp4 files to the site. When I try and follow the link...
http://dev.guitaristforums.com/uploads/20060711_145624_when_i_come_aro.gp4
I get a 404 error? why is this is this to do with the server settings. And before any ones asks yes the URL is correct.
Please help...
BTW I am using Persists ASPupload
------------- http://www.james-r.co.uk" rel="no follow - James
http://www.gotrillian.com/?4498-20" rel="no follow - Trillian - M
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