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Topic: Web Wiz Forums version 9 suggestions
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Subject: Web Wiz Forums version 9 suggestions
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 7:33pm
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Please post suggestions here for anything you would like to see in version 9. If you could also include how you think the item is best being deployed (how you would like it to work) it would also be useful when considering what items to add. [Edit] OK, not many people getting this. As well as giving suggestions, if you could give ways/ideas on how you would like to see them implemented it would be very useful. So instead of just saying, I want a new 'widget' thing, please say, how you would like the new 'widget' thing to work/function. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 7:34pm
New features already under consideration include:-
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Posted By: nothing
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 7:39pm
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i think, you can add fields avatar's under ? we (admins) can add new fields avatar's under and register form ? |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 7:47pm
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my suggestion: same as version 8. borg - remember to keep the forum the best for everyone, and dont add silly features people ask for, that would be better suited as mods. hopefully you know wot i mean, you did back in version 8 ------------- S2H.co.uk - http://www.s2h.co.uk/wwf/" rel="nofollow - WebWiz Mods and Skins For support on my mods + skins, please use http://www.s2h.co.uk/forum/" rel="nofollow - my forum . |
Posted By: SUJO
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 7:51pm
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My personal suggestions:
anyways from top of the head.... ------------- Who are you? What do you want? |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 8:22pm
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Here are some things that come to mind right away:
Calendar Features:
Image Gallery:
Those are the biggest things that come to mind right now. I'm sure I'll be back with more. Thanks.  ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: VBScript
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 8:45pm
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I'm sure this feature isn't in version 8.... but would it be possible to record the IP of the user when they register.
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 9:24pm
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Make the chat room optional.
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Posted By: aks427
Date Posted: 13 October 2006 at 11:07pm
It would be really cool if you could easily insert a photo from the gallery into a post. Maybe have the [IMG] tags for it, or have a pop-up image selector to select one to insert into your post. |
-boRg- wrote:Posted By: cbr600
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 12:38am
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i agree with scotty about particular mods... you shouldnt spend your time developing tools/funcionalities to a minor amout of members. My recommendations, of someone who is using wwf for 3 years and now with a large community (thanks to you), and sticking to the every admin needs (or so i think) - skinnable fórum - possibility of administering the addition of extra fields to tblAuthor because we all have our special needs regarding each forum - a stable chat system would be an enourmous addition - enable groups on Personal Messager, so members can PM groups of members/friends - option to "seach this topic" inside topic - go back to the previous upload file system, because in my forum (14.000members) when someone wants to upload a file takes forever to retrieve the directory listing - column "started at" on ACTIVE TOPICS and SEARCH - favorite topics (i have a mod that works perfectly, could be added) - testimonials/comments members leave on other members - "rate this thread" - benefits every large community - option on ACTIVE TOPICS to "show only new topics/show only topics where i left messages and better subforum integration (some tabulation) - better and menu style top navigation bar - gender field (i think this has been forgotten throughout the versions) - more and editable member status (like MSN so users, even while online, can change their status to Out to lunch, hidding, be right back. Ok, maybe this is stupid) - integrate the "where i participated" mod so you can see where you participated when browsing forum_topics.asp, active topics and search. I have this mod since the beggining and it really makes a difference - Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread - searchable memberlist by location or other fields (for someone who wants to know for example who lives nearby) - option to maintain/remove aspect ratio on avatars (for forums who dont want to use square avatars, just with fixed width) - easier to customize css. a more specific css styles, so you can control your forum aspect with more detail - new members today on main page - admin function to send a PM to everyone - selectable rank image set (in profile) - not hard to do and it adds to more personalizing by the members - let members ignore specific users - different row color for our message in a topic (slightly lighter or darker) - PM full warning icon (extremely simple to crate and useful) - admin lock new registrations or block new topics and posts funcion - useful when you need to maintain/upgrade the forum without having to disable the entire forum - separate topics from important topics (forum_topics.asp) - Maddog's great - admin function to set the reply message box size (every new version i have to enlarge the new message iframe. I think its a bit to small) These are, i think, the mods most commonly asked and that suit many admins. PS - borg you could, for better filter, create a poll with the most wanted mods so you can sort out what best can be integrated in the next versions. Like developing a car, this forum is fully funcional, aestethicaly complete, and has lots of extras. Now its just a matter of developing new features, evolving funcionalities, and make it more admin friendly. Its already great (the best asp forum), but it can get even better, beating the ever growing php forums. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 10:58am
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Some great ideas already, as you can see the list is growing. I've only mentioned the main ones in the list at the top but certainly allot of the other ideas will be considered at the time. As far as the Gallery goes, I'm not sure how best to implement such a feature, ie. how it should tie into the present forum system. Does anyone have any ideas on how they would like to see the gallery implemented? ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 11:11am
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Personally i reckon it should be closely tied into the forum and profile. For example, a user can update their gallery via their profile and when this is done they have an option of an auto message being posted on the forum to say they have updated their gallery. The other option would be to go about it the same way as the calendar, such as certain users can add to the gallery the same way they can add to the Calendar. They make a post with an option to 'add to gallery' (and a drop down to choose which category?) of course the post will be double checked that it does contain an image and then the image will be posted to the gallery with a snippet of the text from the post underneath. Also the post is posted as normal (same as the Calendar). This way a user can view all images posted in the forum with ease without having to trawl through every post in the forum. I hope you can see what I'm getting at lol
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Posted By: Ali Bilgrami
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 11:28am
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well for starters, the member profile should have the gallery information of the member, like number of pictures posted, number of comments posted. i am not sure about this but the number of pictures posted should have some kind of effect on ladder system too, what sort that i am confused about
anyway another suggestion is to make the skin css more precise. yes it is already easy to mess with but you see, its messing that a new skinner must do in order to understand what changes where, in fact i myself some times forget abt it. do make seperate css classes for wwfAd tables or whatever is going on there, for i've noticed that if i change css of ad table it effects the background of inbox status table. you should look into that.
and there is this feature i asked you to add last time, the testimonial system. yes may be it can be moded but i think its a good thing to have by default, i mean look at orkut, it has out-grown any other community system, in fact you should take a look of orkut and add some of its features. ------------- Lets! |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 12:22pm
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Cool so 2 ideas of how to implement the Gallery, anymore? Also, if it where connected to the users profile, how would you display the Gallery, would you need to go through the users profile to view the Gallery, or have some special Gallery page listing all the user who have entered pictures in the Gallery? Also, any thoughts of which system for the Gallery people would prefer to see? Once I get what looks like all the possible ideas for a gallery I will start a new Poll Topic so users can vote which system they prefer for a gallery. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: __n3o__
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 12:50pm
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Bruce in regards to the gallery - I was going to mod my forum, so in the users profile section it would auto generate a specific code for that user (ie... 263251TTHIE) or something... This user could then upload images to Flickr, and tag the images with this specific code.. When another person viewed the users profile on the forum, using the Flickr API it would pull through all his images tagged with his code and arrange in thumbnails ... Then enlarge on click using something like lightbox etc... Just my 2 pence worth... (Most important to me - Not sure if this is being implemented in 8.5 is the skin selection... REALLY would like that feature - Also most users ever online) |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 1:23pm
i personally would like it to show what that member has uploaded. in V7 i modded it so instead of usernames it used the Author_ID, and built a little part in the CP so they could see what they've uploded and delete if they wanted to. each member then had their own folders, so eg /upload/1/images/ and /upload/1/files/ i did this mostly because members seemed to upload multiple copies of an avatar so id rather the current upload system had a way for members to see their OWN files. you could add a management area too. also borg - for the Gallery, you could maybe use the gallery for attachments of images, maybe posts have thumbnails that link to the gallery page for that image. ------------- S2H.co.uk - http://www.s2h.co.uk/wwf/" rel="nofollow - WebWiz Mods and Skins For support on my mods + skins, please use http://www.s2h.co.uk/forum/" rel="nofollow - my forum . |
Posted By: VBScript
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 2:15pm
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Here a few more suggestions. I have picked these up from other forum software and ideas of my own..... Permission Check All/Deselect All When you create a forum or use another part of the Admin CP where you interact with the permissions grid I think it would be good to have a small button for each row and column that allows you to select all or deselect all. A simple bit of javascript but very usefull to have! Enhanced Profile I think this would work well with the gallery. You could have another table on the profile page that has tabs: "Topics", "Posts", "Gallery". And when you click on one of the tabs it shows the latest 5 or however many of what ever you click on. Also, maybe a textarea for things like the interests field. Most Online Display the maximum number of users ever on at anyone time and when it was. Forum Reidrection Have the option to have a forum as a redirection link. So when they click on the forum hyperlink instead of going to a forum thread page they go to a URL. Admins and Moderators Someone might have already mentioned this. Put for things like the active users list it would be useful to display admins and moderators in bold. Topic Dates This should probably be only available to admins/moderators. An admin/mod can set a start date and an end date for a topic to be displayed. Before the start date the topic is hidden from view and after the end date it is deleted. ------------- http://www.james-r.co.uk" rel="no follow - James http://www.gotrillian.com/?4498-20" rel="no follow - Trillian - M |
Posted By: dfrancis
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 3:15pm
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However you do it, you should tie the user upload folder with the user ID somehow so when you delete a user, you also delete the associated folder.
Here's something I've dreamed of for a long time...
Allow users to drag and drop (or cut and paste) images from their hard drive into the RTE. On save, automatically upload the images from the user's clipboard location to the users resource file. Advanced feature would include resizing the image to the same size displayed in the RTE.
It's just a thought but would make the process of uploading local images much easier for non technical users.
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Posted By: dfrancis
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 4:19pm
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one more...
It would be "cool" if a past that has been edited would flag as unread/new. Perhaps even when the display edit is off (though that could get confusing). Of course... having the ability to select this option would also be handy.
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Posted By: miladanimator
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 5:39pm
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some suggestions : 1) remove "What's Going On? and stats" from index footer . 2) add a stat page (stats.asp) and add all stats in this page ... for example :
and add : who visited today and who register today .... the number of today registers , this week registers and ..... 3) add online chat + pm for online members ... 4) use AJAX in the site forms : register, login, search, post and ... forms ... |
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 5:54pm
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Some good ideas, AJAX is being consider for some things, but it does pose quite a security risk for things like on the register page, as seen in some mods, if a secure way can be found to do it, then it will certainly be added.
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Posted By: mats
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 6:37pm
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Two ideas.
The first one is rather hard i think but it would be really nice to have an isolation layer between the forum and the database calls. This way a mod wouldn't have to care about wich database the forum is running on.
If a mod or mod installer needs access to the db for some reason (modify,read,write) it simply would call this layer with a generic instruction. The isolation layer would then translate it into specific instructions for that database.
It might take to musch "horsepower" to do but i think it would be a neat feture
The second one is to put the moderators admin buttons directly into forums_post. In other words remove the admin popup window completly. I have used yabb a litle and that's the only advantage it has, a easier acess to the moderator functions.
I'm concidering to try to make this a mod for 8.X. Don't know is i got the scill for it
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 7:00pm
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The problem with a database layer in the way you mention is that it already uses this layer, built in to the OS and called ADO. I doubt much could be achieved by writing a new layer on top of this. Anyway, there are plans to do this type of thing when creating an ASP.NET version in the future as the code will need to be modulised for ASP.NET will probally go for one file that holds all the SQL, which means just swapping the SQL file to work with different database types. As to your suggestion on admin/moderator functions, and to make a cleaner look I was thinking about implementing a drop down list from the bottom of each post with admin and moderator functions could be reached through. However, if you have a better idea, please give let me know how you would like this to be implemented? ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: mats
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 7:31pm
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Sounds great for the .NET version. I was thinking about something like it for 8.X. The main idea is to make it easier for mod:ers to do database routines. The second advantage is that if theese calls goes through one interface, they won't risk to corrupt the database with a bad routine.
I think the admin buttons for each post are great. It's just that i would like a similar arrangement att the top of the thread for the thread administration. i'll try to move the functions from pop_up_topic_admin.asp and to put them in forum_posts.asp
But as we are talking about indivdual posts (and i'm a newbe) it might would be nice with split and merge buttons to allow the splitting of a thread and merging of threads. I know you could do this by creating a new thread and then move the corsponding posts but it would be nice to be able to do it with one operation
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Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 8:39pm
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I was just writting out 'split and merge thread functions' when i read the above post. Well done mats, you beat me to it  ------------- Handyman man? |
Posted By: mats
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 9:52pm
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I made a dirty hack just showing the look.
I have removed the admin, post reply, new topic and create poll buttons above the thread.
I replaced them with the admin buttons for the thread
http://mats.dynalias.com/images/modded.jpg - http://mats.dynalias.com/images/modded.jpg
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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 10:08pm
The ability for people to comment or discuss images in the image gallery.  And allow this on an image by image basis, where people can comment on individual images.
The admin or person setting up the gallery should be able to specify if anyone can comment on pictures in that gallery or not, and perhaps have permissions similar to forums where some people can and some people can't. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: pjb007
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 10:18pm
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I have seen some forum software that does the following. If you click edit the actual post turns into a edit box, so this means that no separate edit page is needed and very little reload of the page is required.
Replies are just added to the end of the thread without the need to reload anything else on the page.
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Posted By: Ali Bilgrami
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 10:59pm
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rather than a drop down showing in every post i would rather suggest some javascript written and applied on a button in every post by clicking which a menu should open on the fly showing all the admin/mod functions and clicking any would do the tricks with the post, although for the whole topic you can choose the drop down list, it wont look ugly as in each post.
also i'd very much like the post-approval-control on user level. right now it is being applied on group and forum level and most of the time there are only a few users in a few forums doing the damage and need to be checked. if i apply the check on multiple forums or user groups it will surely bug the rest of the people who arent doing anything.
also one thing i was thinking from a while now, is there a way that moders make modifications and just provide provide modules which are copied in some folder in forum and be installed from the admin area by first detecting them and then installing them. this way by moding the forum the user wont be messing up with the original code and touchwood if something happens to the database or the forum it would be rather easy to reinstall all the mods user had before, also the upward compatibility will be achieved. Is it possible or in your to-do list Bruce? ------------- Lets! |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 11:03pm
I think that it should be tied into the forum system, similar to how you tied in polls and events to the forum posts. That way people can comment on them and it would use standard forum permissions.
But, there would need to be some additional pages and changes how the gallery would look compared to regular forum topic section. You may have to read through the whole thing below more than once to get the whole picture, since some of the items listed depend on others to make sense.
The main concept is that a gallery is a specialized forum as far as the database is concerned, but the views are made to look different because its a gallery so the average user does not realize that you are using the forum database structure for some of the code.
1.) Individual image pages could be implemented similar to how you implemented polls, where the image (and related controls) are placed above the forum posts. The first post in the thread would naturally be the description for that image. Imagine a poll on WWF, and imagine the image there instead, with additional links back to the gallery index, next & previous image in the gallery, etc. If no one is allowed to comment on the image, it would naturally show just the image and the description.
2.) Instead of (or in addition to) the standard listing of threads you would have for a forum area, you would have a page that shows thumbnails of the images in that particular gallery. When they click on the image or link for that image, they are taken to the page described in (1) above where they can view the image and comment on it if they have permission to. I would suggest that this view be paginated.
2a.) You may want to keep the secondary view that is similar to the current forum thread listing view (forum_topics.asp) that sorts by last comment date. It would be a nice touch if thumbnails were included in this view for gallery only areas, although it would be nice if there was a view exactly like forum_topics.asp for people who know which discussions they are following and want the page to load quickly.. This would allow people to keep up with discussions about individual images.
3.) Instead of subforums, you have categories within each gallery, so that images can be categorized within a gallery. This is really useful for a user's personal gallery since they only get one personal gallery. A user that has control over the gallery should have permission to setup categories within their gallery, and move images to different categories within their gallery.
3a) If the gallery has categories, then the first view or main page of the gallery is the list of categories. Ideally the user(s) who maintain the gallery can chose a picture thumbnail to represent that category. It would be nice if it randomly picked a picture from the category if the user did not define one explicitly. If the gallery does not have categories, then the main view would be the one described in (2) above (thumbnail view). A link to (2a) should be included on these pages so people can look at the "discussion view" or "list view" instead of this one or the one described in (2).
4.) A forum can be marked as being a gallery only (i.e. you cannot post a new thread unless its an image), in which case the normal view would be (2) and (2a) or (3a) when you enter the gallery. As far as the user is concerned, they have entered a gallery, not a forum since that is how the pages are displayed. Or you can mark a forum as allowing image gallery type posts (similar to how you can allow polls or not) but still be structured like a regular forum area.
5.) In forums that allows image posts, but are not a "gallery" (i.e. image posts only), then image posts are listed similar to a poll, where is say "Image: Topic Subject Name" where Topic Subject Name is whatever the poster entered as the subject for that image/post.
6.) You would have specialized pages that list all the galleries, with separate lists for admin-defined galleries and user galleries.
6a.) Gallery Only forums would not be listed with the other forums, unless the admin desired them to be. It may be useful for admins to list galleries with the forums, however. For example: If I have a gallery about carnival, I may want to list the gallery on default.asp next to the forum about carnival (and have it marked as a gallery). In other cases, I may not want the gallery listed on default.asp, but instead they have to go the page that lists all the galleries to get to it, like the page described in (6) above.
7.) Have a separate page for slide show view that only includes the images and the description, but no comments.
8.) There would also be a link to the user's personal gallery (if they have one) in their profile.
9.) Similar to how you have a link to the Calendar at the top of the pages, you should have a link to Galleries that goes to the pages described in (6).
10.) For forums that include images but are not exclusively a gallery, allow a gallery view of that forum area so people can go directly to the images in that forum. That way a forum could have additional discussions and still have images. (Note: this does not effect the fact that "Galleries" would allow images only and no threads without images. It just adds functionality to forums that are not exclusively for images.)
11.) For personal galleries, the member who owns the gallery can determine whether or not people can comment on the images on an image by image basis (within their own personal gallery only). For admin defined galleries and for forums that allow image posts, the admin determines whether people can comment on images.
12.) For personal galleries, the member who owns the gallery can determine if an image is public (all members may see), private (only the member can see) or friends only (only people on their buddy list can see). (Note: Admin can ALWAYS see.)
13.) Admins would create a gallery like they create a forum. When setting up the gallery or forum, they would specify whether its a gallery, a forum or a forum that allows image posts (a hybrid). This selection during setup will determine how it looks to the user. Once setup, a gallery could be turned into a hybrid, but a hybrid could not be turned into a gallery (unless non-image posts are removed) or a forum could be upgraded to a hybrid, but not to a gallery (unless all non-image posts are removed).
This implementation would have several benefits:
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Posted By: Ali Bilgrami
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 11:18pm
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ohh i forgot about the navigation menu, please change it into something like a horizontal click-dropdown or slide-out. ------------- Lets! |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 14 October 2006 at 11:43pm
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Allow the admin to specify whether links to the forum (or website) itself (i.e. a local link) in a post open in a new window or not. Example: on this forum, a link in a forum post to any page on http://www.webwiz.net - www.webwiz.net would NOT open in a new window, however, a link to http://www.google.com - www.google.com would open in a new window.
I would suggest making this behavior optional defined by the admin, but the behavior above is what I would want. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 12:26am
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Social Networking / Enhanced "Buddy List"
Members can create a buddy/friends list that determines:
Admins/webmasters would also be able to key off this "friends list" to create other social networking mods for WWF. For example, since item 5 could vary greatly from website to website, it may be best of people create that themselves, but they would be able to key off the friends list to determine who can see it ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 12:48am
Some sites, like many of mine, already have top and side navigation bars in addition to the WWF buttons listed at the top of every page. The current style works well for my sites and anything I want to add to my navigation bars, I do.
If changes are made to the forum navigation buttons, it would have to be optional since it would look silly and cluttered to have two top navigation bars under one another on some sites. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 10:01am
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Thanks wistex, some great ideas there, your ideas for the gallery implementation are excellent. By knowing how people want things implemented before development starts it should save loads of time later having to re-write things because people want extra options or it's not implemented in away people like. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: pjb007
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 11:04am
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I have seen these ideas on a demo of another form: On the HELP page, having a manager for that page so that new items can be added, current items can be edited or even deleted. The same sought of thing could be done for the profile page as well. A points system, for example if inappropriate language or adverts/spam are placed in the post/signature/avatar admin can add points to the users profile. This will automatically ban the user for a set time; points can be set to expire after a set time. |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 11:44am
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i personally agree with wistex, the image gallery should intergrate like calendar and polls - keeping the forum ..... a forum i personally disagree with the "social networking" idea, as this is a forum and not a profile site borg, you need to keep this a forum - and not let it get out of hand the social networking would be good for iPortalX (which is pritty much the offical WWF portal) the forum needs to stay generic, as theres already a portal for people who need extra features i wasnt to sure about an image gallery as it seems rather portal-ish but wistex's idea helps it stay a forum. please borg, do not get pressured into making WWF loose sight of what it is.. a forum. also, i agree a more advanced banning system is a high priority, as thats the only feature at the moment that lets the forum down in my eyes ------------- S2H.co.uk - http://www.s2h.co.uk/wwf/" rel="nofollow - WebWiz Mods and Skins For support on my mods + skins, please use http://www.s2h.co.uk/forum/" rel="nofollow - my forum . |
Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 12:44pm
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Keep the GUI as clean and uncluttered as possible
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Posted By: mats
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 8:01pm
I've finally got the delete thread button to work
2 clicks instead of four to delete a thread from inside the thread.
I thought of one way to be able to handle multiple threads at once. How about putting the same buttons in forum_topics and make a checkbox for each topic. The selected action would then affect all selected topics.
A third idea/improvment. The forum, Topics,post,last post line that aperas on top of each forum in default.asp. Make it switchable so that you can chosse to only show it at the top of the page and not for each forum.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 8:44pm
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You are right Scotty32 and that is the way I want to keep it as a forum, and the ideas that westex came up with were exactly along the lines I was looking for, and of course making it optional. By doing this way it also keeps performance high and security quite tight. Anyone checked out the new icons yet that will be included? Any comments on them? ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: Ali Bilgrami
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 10:04pm
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I liked the Vista Style icons from AWicons.com and well the more the better from the Glyph Lab, they arent all that 'pretty' but very well designed. ------------- Lets! |
Posted By: Ali Bilgrami
Date Posted: 15 October 2006 at 10:16pm
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Just one more thing about the Style Sheet implementation, many CSS classes clash with different objects of the forum, like the class for WWF Ads shares properties with class Table which effects some other objects. Try to make it a bit more easy to understand and explainatory as possible too, ok may be not the latter one but you should do something about the first one. ------------- Lets! |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 6:21am
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The CSS style thing you mention isn't that they clash, what I did was to combine CSS styles that are the same together to make the file smaller and reduce bandwidth and improve load times. You can suppurate these styles again, by simple moving any after a comma to their own suppurate style eg:-
would become:-
I can chnage these back but it depends what people want, faster load times of more simple style sheet? Or maybe a template style sheet with lots of comments and all styles suppurate, although the file would be double or more in size, it may help CSS novices change the style sheet. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 6:39pm
The reason why I want it designed how I described is so that it encourages forum-like discussions, but allows more things to talk about, and an easy way to find those things to talk about. An image gallery that people can't discuss is not what I am interested in. I want forum-like discussions, but with the option to not have them in some places.
A highly requested feature of image galleries is allowing people to determine whether or not their pictures are public, private or friends only.
I would like to see at least that implemented. And allow the admin to determine whether or not this feature is turned on.
I can implement all the social networking stuff. It would make my site unique since no portal does this currently.
You are forgetting that a forum provides two major services:
A couple social networking features, such as allowing people to keep some images in their personal gallery private or friends only, does not change a forum into something else. But what it does do is help build and retain community, which is part of what a forum is supposed to do. I can understand that you do not want to turn WWF into MySpace, and that is not what I am asking and not what I want.
But if Borg at least implements that Image Gallery "Public/Private/Friends Only" feature for user's personal image galleries, then your portal software and developers like me could key of those fields to create additional non-forum like features without having to modify the forum code. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 16 October 2006 at 11:07pm
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wistex: by "social networking" am thinking a Myspace style site, with profiles etc the way i see it, is, all images should be public, as thats more "forum like" and less "portal like" the only "security" should be, allow for Guests or Members etc pritty much all images in a forum should work of that forums permissions, so, if you dont have permission to the forum you dont have permission to the image having "friends lists" and "friends only" images, makes things complicated, am pritty sure it'll affect performance and am sorry but "private" images should completely useless, by this, i assume (though could be wrong) you want images to be able to be for that user only - in a sense give them free hosting of images that no one but them can see this goes far beond being a forum, and becomes more "portal" if you want images to work off "friends" lists why not mod v9 (if this is how its done) so that your "buddy" list have access to select images ------------- S2H.co.uk - http://www.s2h.co.uk/wwf/" rel="nofollow - WebWiz Mods and Skins For support on my mods + skins, please use http://www.s2h.co.uk/forum/" rel="nofollow - my forum . |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 10:43am
It won't effect performance at all. If you write the SQL statement correctly, its one hit to the database.
And a forum is a community, so features that build the community should be included as long as it doesn't radically change WWF from being a forum. And adding the optional features I am requesting does not do that.
Then don't enable that functionality.
Why are you so against features in WWF?
I am not sure what you have against innovative features, some of which happen to be in portals, usually poorly implemented at that.
I have bad news for you. These features are becoming popular and in demand and integrate well into a forum without making it not be a forum. And other forum software will start implementing things like this. Its the direction the industry is going. Community building and social networking. Anyone who does not do that will be left behind.
And if you look around, a large percentage of the users of WWF require additional "portal" like features and either have to rely on third party solutions that don't get updated as often (all portals are still using 7.x code!) or have to mod the forum themselves.
I would rather have some optional "portal" like features added to WWF, without going overboard, so that WWF installations remain secure and people can tie into WWF easier without breaking or moding it.
The most important reason is #4. Especially since most people mod WWF because it doesn't do everything they want. Innovative Ideas - Not Copying what is out there.
And for the record, I do NOT want WWF to become a portal. I think most portals are ugly and don't like how they are designed. I also think that My Space is poorly designed.
But that does not mean you can't take some innovative ideas that happen to appear in portals and social networking sites, and rework them into something more forum-like that actually makes sense and is useful to the users.
Example: Borg did something totally innovative with the calendar. He integrated it into the forum instead of making it separate. He will probably do the same with the Image Galleries. You could probably do the same with Blogs and Social Networking.
The key is taking what works, stripping away what doesn't work, and being creative and making something new and innovative.
Think outside of the box. That is what is going to keep WWF one of the best forums out there. And with the calendar and image gallery implemented so that its integrated into the forum, I am sure you will see a lot of interest and copying by other boards when they see how brilliant the concept is. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: ctscott
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 1:56pm
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A navigation menu would be nice. One where the admin can specify which groups can see/access specific menu items, that can be maintained from the admin control panel, that can have "sub menu" items. Just a thought. ------------- ______________________ http://www.cfbtrivia.com" rel="nofollow - College Football Trivia |
Posted By: nexus
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 7:53pm
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Hi! Thought I would post a link to a very detailed vbulletin 3.6.0 page pointing out some of the new features that version contains.
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186803 - http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186803
I'm not lazy, but there's so many good features there that I thought I would share the whole thing with everybody in here (instead of just highlighting some of the features), specially you, Borg (even though I guess you check out some of the other bulletin boards on the internett yourself, just to have an idea on what's going on elsewhere :D)!
The post is worth reading through, as there are many good features there.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 8:08pm
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I actually noticed the double click to mark forum as read feature yesterday as I am currently working on a new system for 8.50 for marking which forums have new posts in as the present system isn't accurate enough for most users. There are some nice ideas there using AJAX, I know that people are waiting AJAX used on the registration page for the username part, but in that way I think it could course security issues and open the database up to flood attacks, but some of the ideas in the page you mention are quite feasible ways of using AJAX. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: nexus
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 9:48pm
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Yeah, I actually think vbulletin has done some nice work when it comes to using AJAX, as they have been carefull not to bloat the whole forum with it.
They did a really good job with sorting out which places that would benefit from AJAX, and which parts that would not.
On a side note, here's a link to a demo of a CMS (modX CMS, php solution) which have focused extremely on use of AJAX: http://opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=2101&Itemid=159 - http://opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=2101&Itemid=159
The CMS is actually really nice to use, and could maybe help you see places that would benefit from AJAX, and also since this is a demo; you could see which features you don't want to spend time coding with AJAX in WWF.
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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 17 October 2006 at 10:24pm
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Happy to see this topic... Change is always good... I would like to see an AJAX effect upon clicking on forums/threads hyperlinks. When someone clicks to access a topic/forum that AJAX effects takes place. The effect pre-loads the page, in the meantime AJAX is in status of (Loading...) after a few seconds, the new page opens up.
This was seen on ASP .NET bulletin forums systems as well as on the Microsoft forums.
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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 6:31am
I like the RSS Feed Poster Robot which takes an RSS feed and inserts each item into the forum as a forum post. A great way to automatically add topics for people to discuss!
The Welcome PM at Registration is also a nice touch.
Private Message Quota Warning is nice too.
Admin Quota Override: so that admins and moderators may send PMs to people who have a full inbox. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 9:26am
I hope you are not talking about those annoying "please wait while we load this page" notices that seem to have become popular on some forum software. My opinion on those is just load the @#$% page instead of bloating the page with a notice saying its loading the page. I've used the internet long enough to know that pages take time to load. And if the page takes so long to load that it requires a notice, then it is either poorly designed or is generating huge images or lists that are MB in size instead of KB, or is parsing a really large database query, which should not be typical of all the forum pages. Its okay on one or two pages where there is an abnormally long wait, but on every freaking page, give me a break.
Also, preloading the page actually causes people to wait LONGER because the user is forced to stare at a please wait notice until the whole page is loaded, whereas if the page loads normally in a browser, you can typically at least read the text while the images are loading and not have to wait for the whole page to load to start seeing part of it.
I avoid forums and portals that have those annoying "please wait" notices.
Please do NOT implement those on every page. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: dj air
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 11:29am
i think a welcome pm wpould be good, also the admin/mod override (at least admins)
and have the number of pms allowed on a per group basis or help within tblAuthor and collected from the default group settings and can be overridden in the profile
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Posted By: urko
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 11:50am
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I read all 6 pages...i hope i didnt overlook this, but one feature that would be need ( for some ) is blog. I have seen on one forum where users can create a personal blog once they register on the forum. Maybe it could be optional. O well just an idea.  ------------- Urko |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 12:03pm
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I think a personal blog would be more a bolt on extra rather than being able to integrate it into the forum, so would effect performance. However, it is a great idea for future development ideas to build a standalone one that could integrate with Web Wiz Forums. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 1:07pm
Well here is a screen shot I took from the Microsoft news group and also a link which demonstrates it:
 You can see a live demo by clicking on any topic subject in this page: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/dgbrowser/en-us/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/dgbrowser/en-us/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 1:12pm
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Looks like this only works in IE and doesn't use AJAX. I can see the usefulness of such a thing when opening up something in an iframe on the same page like in this example, but there isn't anywhere in Web Wiz Forums where iframes are used in this way. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 1:17pm
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Hello Borg, In the link below, click on the plus (+) sign next to any thread subject (no frames in this one) and works with firefox as well:- http://www.iraq4u.com/forum/forumid_8/p_/tmode_1/smode_1/tt.htm - http://www.iraq4u.com/forum/forumid_8/p_/tmode_1/smode_1/tt.htm ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 5:35pm
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Not sure if this was mentioned before...
I'd like to see a feature that allows forum visitors to view any un-answered topics (or topics that had no replies) excluding closed topics. And with the option of viewing those unanswered topics for 1 hour, 3 hours, two days, 6 months like on the active topics page, etc... ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 5:57pm
Yeah, that isn't so bad compared to the full page "please wait notices," but in my opinion the pages you describe on Microsoft's website are very poorly designed and slow, so it needs "please wait/loading" type messages. I think it was their first attempt at demonstrating .NET and is not a very good example of what .NET can do. Their website is way too slow and clunky. Its the most annoyingly designed message board I have ever visited.
I'd rather have the forum be fast and not need those messages in the first place.
Also, there appears to be a bug in WWF making this post not display correctly even though it has the correct number and order of QUOTE tags. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 6:20pm
Depends on how you implement the Blog functionality into the forum. If you did like I did on http://www.wistex.info - www.wistex.info and http://www.cubeweek.us - www.cubeweek.us where I simply changed how the posts where displayed and added a couple different views, it would not effect performance at all, since what you have is essential a forum with a blog skin.
On the other hand, a Blog add-on would probably be easier to maintain (both on the blog side and forum side), and allow people to chose whether they want blogs or not, and chose whether they want to give their own users their own blogs.
Since the blog system could lead to a variety of non-forum like features, it probably would be better to make it a separate bolt-on product.
The biggest thing is the ability to be able to login once and be logged into both the forum and the blog sections. So they would use the same userbase and same cookies to indicate whether someone was logged in (assuming they are on the same domain name, of course).
Of course, allowing people to install standalone would be great too. But I think a lot of people are itching for integration to WWF so that there is only one userbase for the entire website.
And that actually leads to another request:
All future versions of your non-forum software (i.e. blogs, mailing lists, etc.) which have user accounts, optionally integrate with WWF's userbase so they use WWF's userlist instead of their own, as well as have a unified login for the entire website (i.e. logging into the blog or mailing list logs them into forum and vice versa). Each program can still have their own login and registration page, but all enter the data into the same table in the database, and all set the same cookie... OR you can have it so that the mailing list and blog make people login and register accounts via the forum's registration/login forms but redirect them back to the blog or mailing list page they came from once done. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 9:36pm
Just to clarify, I am not saying that I want the categories to appear like subforums. The categories should be something different and only be visible once you are inside a gallery. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: nexus
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 10:12pm
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URGENT suggestion for WWF 8.50: It still doesn't return you to the pace you were before you logged in at a WWF forum.
Example: I'm currently not logged in, but I want to give a reply to this topic. When I hit login (or select "post reply" button) I'm transferred to the login page, but after the login I'm not returned to the place I was prior to login, but instead just sent to forum frontpage. That is ANNOYING! ;o)
May you add such a feature for that version? Would love to see it! =)
And also, since this is a WWF 9 topic: Here's a couple of suggestion from the vbulletin page that woud come in handy:
1. Private Message Preview in Notification Emails
If you have elected to receive emails when receiving a new private message, the email will now contain more than just the name of the user who sent you the message. The title and body of the message will be included. Any BB codes in the message will automatically be converted to an equivalent plaintext version using the new plaintext bbcode parser. 2. Unique Unsubscribe Link in Emails Thread and forum subscription emails now include a link for unsubscribing that is unique to each user. When using this link, unsubscribing from a thread or forum no longer requires logging in. 3.RSS Poster Robot vBulletin 3.6 includes a new scheduled task that can check RSS feeds from the internet, read their contents and insert items from them onto your board. --> I second this. That would be very cool I tell you! Just think of how forums could gain more interest from users. Online Newspapers, savvy sites etc would love such things.
4. Super Moderator Permissions Individual permissions can now be set for each super moderator. If you wish to prevent a super moderator from mass-moving threads, you can. Any permission you could control for a regular moderator can now be controlled for a super moderator. --> I would love to see the possibility to have a more flexible permissions system, that is more on a per user/group basis. I know it could cause confusion for alot of users, but there is actually quite some people using WWF that really have a need for more control over the permissions system. Maybe moving all those per user/group permissions into an own "Advanced" section on the permissions page?
5. More easy to navigate admin section. I really like the way phpBB have done it with their soon-to-come 3.0 version. Much easier to navigate, and you don't have a need for all that horisontal scrolling. ;o) Also would like to see more help-tools for admin, like you have on admin front page on invisionboard demo. Some of the most used tools all displayed on front page for easy finding. 6. Infraction System The infraction system allows you and your moderators to flexibly reprimand problem users. Create as many types of infractions as you want to represent any type of rules violation on your board. Each infraction has a controllable weight (points) and an option to allow it to be applied only as a warning, which alerts the user to their violation but doesn’t give them any points. Additionally, the points given to a user for a violation can be automatically removed after a specified amount of time via the Scheduled Tasks system. The points are used to remove permissions from users that reach specific thresholds. To be more flexible, the existing user group permission system is used. You can see in the screenshot that “Registered Users” who have more than 15 points will have permissions from the “Infractions – Moderate All Posts” group applied, and any user with more than 30 points will get permissions from the “Infractions – Banned” group.
--> I know WWF allready have a similiar system, but this one is a really kick ass solution. I know it takes heavy development to make it, but it's a really nifty solution to have. On small forums there are normally not a need for such a system as moderators/admins normally have full controll over the forum fow all the time. But on big forums with lots and lots of users and with huge amounts of posts being posted every day, such an task would become impossible for moderators/admins. It is then such a system like this would be in handy, as it is fully automated. Worth considering thought, if not for version 9 maybe for 9.50 or 10? =)
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Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 18 October 2006 at 10:14pm
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Ok just had an idea as i always have to check through the emails to see who verified a post. Please check out the images below, the date could or might not be included.  Also this could be turned off or on in the admin area. ------------- Handyman man? |
Posted By: miladanimator
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 7:14am
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1 suggestion : users can post in Future ... for example : I write a post now ... but I like my post go to public tomorrow ... |
Posted By: nexus
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 11:24am
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Also, I think you need to re-do the way the approval system for posts work, because I don't think it work quite as good as intentionally.
The problem with the approval system, is that it generates a qeue of posts if there are no moderators/admins online. The whole topic stalls, and when posting a reply you could easily end up having to go through 5-10 topics when all the others have been approved.
Example:
Topic "X"
Okey: in this example it seems to me like I'm nr 5 in the replyline. But, in reality, the Topic X looks like this:
Topic "X"
As you see, there were actually 6 others posts before me that was waiting for approval. So now I have to jump back and forth to read posts that I missed, and I also need to try to find my own post in the topic. Hope this example clarifies the problem. I therefore hope that the approval system could be more refined and extended so that we might avoid such things like this.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 12:09pm
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Could you please say how you would like it refined, just saying please refine it, could mean anything, please give some suggestions as to how you think it would work better?
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Posted By: nexus
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 5:09pm
Yeah, I know that! Sorry for not giving some ideas to how it might work.
To be honest: right nw I'm not sure how it could be done better, but I'll take some time to think through it and see if I can come up with some good ideas.
Also, maybe someone else in here has a bright head and could help come up with a suggestion.
But: Normally I would say that the "Approval of posts" feature is something you don't need on forums other than those that seems to have problems with users not following the rules, spamming, not using search feature before posting, complaining for no reason, using capital letters in subject line, swearing or in other ways violating the forum rules.
Right?
So, if you ask me I would say that a really good Infraction system (see nr 6 in my featurelist three posts upwards) would do a better job controlling users than the approval system. The approval system could be an add-on to the Infraction system so users violating one certain rule would be forced into an "approval group".
I don't know, but I guess that could be a smart way to go. Or?
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 5:28pm
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The approval system is very useful for companies, corporate users, and children's sites where you need to monitor very closely what is being posted. Only last week I had a call from a children's site that was having issues and were very pleased that this feature was included, and the admin activation of new users, without these they were going to have to close down the forums on their site. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: nexus
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 5:35pm
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Yeah, I don't doubt that the approval system has been effective and that it helps alot of people, but incorporated with an infraction system I believe it could be even better, as you wouldn't reside on just the approval system. The infraction system itself is fully automated, meaning it will monitor and take action against all kind of activity that seems suspicious or violates the rules.
It's a nice add-on to the system at least. =)
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 5:41pm
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Although not implemented in that way if you can already leave admin notes for each user by editing their profile, these can be read and added to by any admin or moderator. This system was introduced instead of the type of system you mention as it is more flexible, if you want to give users points you can put the points in and also add notes so other admins and moderators know more about any issues. The other problem, 'Schedule Tasks' ASP has one big limitation, you can not schedule tasks, they need to be run by some type of user interaction. The only way this is possible is to have access to the server so that it can run a batch file at a set time, or a WSH script. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: gibbo
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 6:34pm
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One way that the scheduled tasks could be used is the same was that vBulletin does, in which there is an image placed in the footer of the document with its width and height set to 0px (or by positioning it offscreen) which links to a file that runs the scheduled tasks. It is just one way out of many, and it works effectively with the vBulletin system. ------------- I reject your reality and substitute my own. – Adam Savage, Mythbusters |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 7:17pm
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I have thought about that type of approach myself, but the problem is that what if you have a quite board that is not accessed for a few days, the file wouldn't be run. There are also quite a few performance issues involved, like you wouldn't want the file run all the time, and how would you flag that the file has already been run, all these would use up valuable processing time and extra database hits, unless managed extremely well. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 7:23pm
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Regarding post approval... Many forums use post approval for more than just enforcement of forum rules. Some forums are built around subjects that are inherently difficult to keep on topic. I notice this particularly in forums concerned with science, history, and current events. Moderators use post approval as a thread editing function, not as a bad-user block. The current post approval mechanism is cumbersome, but it does server multiple functions. I'd hate to see more automation introduced to control "bad users" at the expense of some of the other uses of post approval. -------------
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Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 9:01pm
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I personally love and use the post approval system. It has cut the amount of crap in forums down as the posters no that no one but me will see it. that takes their fun away ------------- Handyman man? |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 9:05pm
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Admin Tip of The Day:- It would be nice if a feature like "tip of the day" is implemented so that a the forum system can be used in a more useful way. Many admins don't know about all the features that the wwf include. For example, one tip of the day would be: ((Did you know that WWF has a 'admins notes' feature that you can use to leave hidden notes in a user's profile?...))
You can create a list of "tip of the day" and everytime the admin logins it shows somewhere on the page, either on the main forum page or in the control panel, or both. This list will grow as we go along. The admin can select to disable that feature from their admin area. ------------- "When it gets dark enough, you can see the stars" -Charles A. Beard |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 9:41am
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Nice idea. I have a new full-time member of staff starting in the office next week, and one of his first jobs will be to fully document how to install, run, and use the features in Web Wiz Forums. This will include more help files within the software itself and as he doesn't know the system inside out, it should mean that the documentation will be allot more coherent for newbies than anything I could ever write. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: kiklop
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 4:14pm
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I didn't read all suggestions here, but i'm sure borg will make another excellent job with the future version of WWF.
Here are just some "small" suggestions i would like to see implemented and that were requested by our members (sorry for not being able to express myself in English very well); - user bookmark; an option to "build" personal bookmarks of favourite threads / posts. - print version of single posts - option to enable / disable (show / hide) subscriptions to entire forums by user status. For example I would like to leave this option for admins and moderators but not for all users ( instead they would receive only notifications for threads where they are participating. Even better .. I would like to have this option for every forum and subforum. - automated email notifications about birthdays for buddy lists. - option to enable or disable PM on user level; each user would have the option to enable or disable PM communication . - alternate default page. Now this is something I will try to code myself, but I thought it may be worth sharing here and see if anyone is interested to see it as a core option Our members aren't visiting all forums and subforums regularly, but at the same time they are asking for various option to filter posts. Beside active topics (which is displaying all forums) I needed to add filters like last XX post, last XX topic, my last XX posts .. What I would like to have is the option where users would select forums (and subforums) they are interested to be displayed on this alternate display page. Forums (and subforums) selected would be separated in dedicated "boxes" with last XX topics for each of them. **** about photo gallery Since my website is devoted to photographers I'm particularly interested in photo gallery but most probably i would ask too much suggesting what i would like to have and I seen that not all here are too enthusiastic about powerful photo gallery option. But first of all I do consider WWF a great forum application primary because is stable, secure and fast while providing many options. I do consider performance as a top priority and all new features should not affect performance a lot. Photo gallery should be integrated as an OPTION and when disabled shouldn't affect forum application in any way. I'm well aware of the fact that many webites and forums don't need it and it would be a bad thing for them "suffering" performance for something they don't use. On the other hand, photo galleries are getting highly popular with each single day and having them "integrated" will make WWF even more powerful and popular. But, I honestly believe that "forum form" isn't adequate for this purpose and that while integrated with authentication system should be mostly coded as a "separate application" , with include pages for easier integration in existent forums and webpages. Anyway .. borg .. I really appreciate all your efforts and I can bet that the next version will not disappoint in any way. Thank you ! ------------- http://www.dyxum.com" rel="nofollow - dyxum.com |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 5:13pm
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I think that the admin approval of posts feature and user point system / infraction system are different things and are used for different purposes. Perhaps there is a need for both. Personally I would like a generalized point system that could be used both for infractions but also for rewards. Users could be rewarded for certain actions (add points), and fined for certain actions (subtract points). If the points are high enough they get access to certain areas or forums or features, for example. If their points fall below a certain amount (such as being negative), then they are restricted in certain ways (cannot edit their own posts, cannot post, banned, etc.).
It would be nice if points could possibly have an expiration date, especially for penalities. This would result in a temporary ban or temporary penalty (locked out of a certain forum area) until the points expire.
Also, a generalized point system could be something that other developers interact with via their add-on apps. Example items that could be build by third-party developers:
If the forum already has a points system tied to features in the forum, then third-party developers do not have to modify WWF at all to use it (i.e. they just update the database with the new points value). For users without the add-ons, the point system can be used for infractions and penalties exclusively.
Example of one possible implementation:
I think a generalized point system woudl be more flexible and allow for more creativity by third-party developers. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 20 October 2006 at 7:04pm
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With so many suggestions ideas are now getting lost under the 1000's of lines of text. This topic is being closed for a while so that the 1000's of lines of text and great ideas can be sifted through properly and given the consideration that they deserve. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |