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Topic: WebWiz Forum v. FrontPage Shared Borders

Posted By: jcnassoc
Subject: WebWiz Forum v. FrontPage Shared Borders
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 2:22pm

Hello all!

This may be a dumb question, but I am new at some of this and could use some help with what I hope to be a simple problem.

We have a FrontPage site that has shared left and top borders (just recently added). Now, when a user goes into WebWiz forum they see the shared borders, which is fine (actually kind of handy as they can quickly jump back to the main site from within the forum).

The problem is any of the "reply" options from within the forum (quick reply, quote, reply) now--by default--have embedded in them the same left and top border content (which is our logo, navigation links, etc.). I can delete them manually and proceed with the reply, posting, etc., but for some users this will be very confusing and just plain not user-friendly.

Is there a way for me to let WebWiz Forum know NOT to use the shared borders?

Any help would be much appreciated!!

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Posted By: javi712
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 3:28pm

Hi jsnassoc!

Can you post a URL or screenshot so we can see what you are talking about?

Posted By: jcnassoc
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 4:39pm

javi712 wrote:

Hi jsnassoc!

Can you post a URL or screenshot so we can see what you are talking about?

Hi!

Try going to http://www.delval.org/webwiz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2, and scroll down to the quick reply area (or just click on Quote or Reply), and take a look at the edit region where one would normally type in the reply. You will see our same top and left border shown in the text area (rather than just having a plain/empty text area, with at most the quote if you used quote rather than reply).

I hope it's not the case that you can't have shared borders when using WebWiz... that would be a bummer!

Thanks.

Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 4:50pm

I think that in FP you can turn off shared borders for a particular page/script. Try turning them off for RTE_textarea.asp. That's the initial page that's loaded into the RTE.

Now is not a good time to be adding FP extensions like shared borders to your web site. MS is dropping FP after the first of the year and replacing it with Expressions WebDesigner (EWD) which is due out the middle of next month.

EWD will support FP extensions that are currently in a web site but will not allow you to add them to a new page or site. Even MS figures that shared borders are too non-standard.

If I were you, I'd replace the shared borders with includes. You'd have to manually place them but they won't break other features of a site that conform to web standards.

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Posted By: jcnassoc
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 4:18pm

dpyers wrote:

I think that in FP you can turn off shared borders for a particular page/script. Try turning them off for RTE_textarea.asp. That's the initial page that's loaded into the RTE.

Now is not a good time to be adding FP extensions like shared borders to your web site. MS is dropping FP after the first of the year and replacing it with Expressions WebDesigner (EWD) which is due out the middle of next month.

EWD will support FP extensions that are currently in a web site but will not allow you to add them to a new page or site. Even MS figures that shared borders are too non-standard.

If I were you, I'd replace the shared borders with includes. You'd have to manually place them but they won't break other features of a site that conform to web standards.

Thanks so much for the tip; that worked!

Interesting about FrontPage... leave it to MS to let you get somewhat up to speed on technology and then change it! LOL How is Expressions WebDesigner in terms of ramp-up time?

Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 4:45pm

Very similar to FP but no ability to add FP extensions to a pahge although it will support them it they're already in place and you're publishing to a site that has them turned on. Basically FP had FP and Sharepoint built in. MS split it iinto two products - one for web development and one for Sharepoint.

It's heavily CSS based and the problems most beta testers have found with it seem to be centered around how to use the CSS features - that and how it integrates with VS2005.

Amazon says it'll ship on the 19th of December. Upgrade from FP is $90 (US). Full version is a little under $300.

You can get a beta version here - http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/en/web_designer/default.mspx - http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/en/web_designer/default.mspx

I'd recommend you check out the news group first before installing a beta though.
news://microsoft.public.expression.webdesigner - news://microsoft.public.expression.webdesigner

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