Design Issue: Admin Checkbox
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Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.08 - https://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Design Issue: Admin Checkbox
Posted By: djlurch
Subject: Design Issue: Admin Checkbox
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 1:36am
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When I admin a forum, the popup window has a checkbox labeled: Show moved icon in last forum. If I uncheck it, then click OK, the settings are save, the page is reloaded, and the checkbox is checked again. This is not the expected behavior. I expect the form to display an accurate view of the values in the database, not what the programmer thinks I might want to do. In fact I almost never want the moved icon/link to appear. Is there a way this can be fixed? I'd prefer the checkbox to be be unchecked if the value would dictate that it is unknown or unchecked. |
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Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 2:14am
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To make it so that the 'Show moved icon in last forum' is unchecked by default do this: 1- Open the file: pop_up_topic_admin.asp2- Go to line 461
3- Locate this code:
<input type="checkbox" name="moveIco" value="true" checked /><% = strTxtShowMovedIconInLastForum %></td>
4- Edit the value in red from checked to unchecked.
5- Save teh file, that's all.
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Posted By: djlurch
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 6:58am
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Info Tech: Thanks for the response. Your post shows me that a) You agree with my assessment or b) You have way too much free time to hack scripts...for me! |
Posted By: djlurch
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 7:11am
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It was line 553 in my code. Actually I just removed the checked word. However, this doesn't fix the issue. At all. The solution just toggles the checkbox off. The value should be filled with the current value for that post. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 9:22am
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Any moved posts is shown as moved icon in the last forum, the feature is only put there for your convenience so the admin can override the feature when moving a post.
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Posted By: dpyers
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 9:58am
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Personally, I prefer having the check box on so moved posts ar flagged as such automatically.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 11:05am
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It seems to be a bit of a personal choice and is only applied when you first move the post and not at a later time, which is why the value is not set by a database flag. By default when you move a post it will leave a flag in the old forum that the post has been moved, however, because not everyone wants this a simple checkbox is added so at the time when you move the post you can select to not have the post flagged with a moved icon in the old forum. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: iSec
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 3:29pm
You asked if it could be fixed, you didn't ask if we agree or disagree. The only thing you needed to do is have the "Un" included in the code... but to make it simpler for you I thought of telling you where to go to do it.
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djlurch wrote:Posted By: djlurch
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 11:38pm
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The fact remains that the popup window does not correctly reflect the values of the moved checkbox. borg: To move the post I click on the Admin, then select the category from the dropdown. Please note that the checkbox is checked before I even move it. |
Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 11:57pm
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It's like that because it has to be one or the other, if it was off by default then someone would complain about that
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Posted By: djlurch
Date Posted: 21 December 2006 at 11:59pm
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Mikey: I'm with you on that. This would be a good idea for an administrative setting. |
Posted By: MrMellie
Date Posted: 22 December 2006 at 12:30pm
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 December 2006 at 2:16pm
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Thats correct so it would be a bit hard having it updated from the database when no related value is stored in the database relating to this option. It's not an option on it's own it's lumped with the move topic forum drop down simply so that people can override the default when moving a topic of leaving a flag in the previous forum. I'm not sure why djlurch you have it in for the popup topic admin page, the page is simply to add extra options for the admin and moderators to help administer the board more easily. The popup topic admin page itself is currently undergoing redevelopment and has several new dynamic options added to it, which is why you now get a scroll bar you mention in another post. It is still being developed for version 9, but rather than forum admins having to wait for version 9 to use the extra dynamic options in the new pop up admin page it was decided to put it in with the 8.05 release so that users can take advantage of the extra options now instead of having to wait for version 9. You will find now with the page that you will get different options depending on the topic and the forum that the page relates to, so you may find you have more scrolling to do on some topics with this page than others. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: djlurch
Date Posted: 22 December 2006 at 3:45pm
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borg: That seems like a design issue to me. Can the font sizes or layout be changed in such a way the no scrolling is required? |
Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 22 December 2006 at 3:54pm
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As the contents of the box are totaly dynamic i doubt that would help, your best bet is to have a play around with the pop-up yourself and see if you can come to a satisfactory end.
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Posted By: javi712
Date Posted: 22 December 2006 at 3:56pm
| djlurch - One thing you need to keep in mind about is that Borg can not code this forum according to how everyone wants. Fortunately he left the code clean enough for us to go in and modify things if need be. This is something that I'm sure can be fixed real easily by just modifying the height and width properties in the javascript pop-up link code. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 December 2006 at 4:05pm
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The problem is with doing that is that the number of options on the popup is now dynamic, if you change it to one size it may be OK for some topics, but in other topics there will be less or more options so the size would be wrong. How it is presently set is that you have a scroll bar, the more options you have in the page the further down you need to scroll to see all the options. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: djlurch
Date Posted: 22 December 2006 at 4:10pm
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borg: Idea #1: Make the popup slightly bigger Idea #2: Wrap the output in a table sized at the size of the popup Idea #3: Have everything aligned/sized relatively instead of absolutely Idea #4: Extra white space is OK Idea #5: Extra space at the bottom is OK. I have a feeling that you understand that it would be nice to have everything viewable without scrolling. |
Posted By: Mikey
Date Posted: 23 December 2006 at 3:22am
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I personally think the way it is done now is the best idea, #1: This wouldn't help because the content is dynamic, i.e. you never know what size it's going to be. #2: As above #3: This would not solve this issue, because things would be sized relatively to a value that doesn't exist until after the page has been created. #4: A large box with small content is worse than a simple scrollbar #5: as above ------------- Handyman man? |
Posted By: djlurch
Date Posted: 23 December 2006 at 9:46pm
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Mikey: Regarding #1: The window isn't designed for the default out of the box display. Why not just increase the size of the window 100 pixels or so and be done with it? Regarding #3: You misunderstood. Just put in a big 100% height table and let the browser sort out the details. Are you telling me that a little extra white space is worse than hiding the OK button? We are NOT talking about a lot of extra space. We're talking about a very small amount. If I take your #4 answer, then why not make the popup 20 by 20...because "a large box with small content is worse than a simple scrollbar". Again, we are talking about a very small amount of extra white space. I seriously can't believe I have to argue for fixing this design issue. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 23 December 2006 at 10:39pm
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This seems to be an issue of personal taste rather than a design issue that needs fixing. The simple solution is that if you don't like it then modify the design to look how you want, but you can't please everyone and no matter what you do someone will always want it different. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: djlurch
Date Posted: 23 December 2006 at 11:01pm
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borg: Honestly, I don't believe that this is an issue of personal taste. Here is the code: javascript:winOpener('pop_up_topic_admin.asp?TID=231','admin',1,1,480,265) Why did you choose 480x265? I would choose the size of the popup window to be big enough to fit the contents, unless it was unreasonable to fit the contents into the window. Why not just change the popup size to 320? Which one is better. This one: http://imageshack.us">  Or This one: http://imageshack.us">  |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 23 December 2006 at 11:07pm
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As the number of options can increase you would still need to do scrolling on the second one. As this is an admin page that only the admin will see, and as the majority of people here don't see this as an issue, then I think you are making a big deal about something that comes down to personal taste, and as I think this has gone on far to long I will be closing this topic off now. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |