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Topic: need cms
Posted By: mainevacations
Subject: need cms
Date Posted: 16 March 2007 at 10:18pm
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I am looking for an easy way to add a feature to a website page that allows someone to sign in and edit a page text and photos and then sign out and the changes are made. I want it to be web based so it can be done anywhere or time for someone without much knowledge and also so that I can select which pages are editable by this program.
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Posted By: davidshq
Date Posted: 18 March 2007 at 12:41am
I personally use two different options. The first is DotNetNuke (www.dotnetnuke.com). It is a very full-featured ASP.NET 2.0 application currently in its fourth version. The second option is Telligent's Community Server (www.communityserver.org). I mainly use DNN these days, because Community Server isn't nearly as full-featured and is under a more restrictive license. CS does have a few advantages however - mainly its over UI is pretty slick. When they release the next version I think CS will be a much better contender, but then again DNN is releasing 4.5 shortly which will include AJAX integration. The biggest problem with DNN is that its a bit slow - especially for sites that have low traffic, but they are working on fixing this and have made significant enhancements in 4.4. David.
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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 26 March 2007 at 11:13pm
With DNN, they spent the last while working on code optimizations and performance improvements in the core, so 4.4.1 and 4.5 will be much faster than previous versions.
DNN is really solid. There are DNN sites running web farms with 20 and 30 servers to handle the load.
My only complaint about DNN is that there's no WWF module for it. (Hint hint...)
I wrote a http://renegademinds.com/Default.aspx?tabid=71 - keepalive utility for DNN for low volume sites to keep the application in memory and eliminate those application startup times. It works quite well and is more reliable than the DNN KeepAlive.aspx because it will keep trying to reload the KeepAlive.aspx file even if there's an application error or timeout, etc. The upshot is that the web site loads fast.
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Posted By: davidshq
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 2:47am
Yeah, the forums for DNN aren't bad though, though WWF are better. But DNN is ASP.NET 2.0 and WWF is still ASP (I wonder if the WW apps are ever going to move to ASP.NET?). I run one site that uses web farms for DNN. The DNN web farm model is not entirely intuitive at this part and I think could really use some significant work to streamline and make more intuitive. Also, high traffic sites can run into problems with logging and scheduling, especially if items are scheduled on a "per load" basis rather than time schedule. Still, I do like DNN a lot, and if you become familiar with it it can handle a lot of tasks. David.
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Posted By: mainevacations
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 3:28am
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Is there a Javascript or such that is easily applied to a sites page, so that it can be accessed just by logging on to a page and use a password and username?
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Posted By: davidshq
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 1:00am
Hmmm...Could you be a little more detailed in your question? I'm afraid I don't follow. David.
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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 11:30pm
davidshq wrote:
Yeah, the forums for DNN aren't bad though, though WWF are better. But DNN is ASP.NET 2.0 and WWF is still ASP (I wonder if the WW apps are ever going to move to ASP.NET?).
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ActiveForums are by far the best forums for DNN at the moment and much better than the default ones in DNN.
My guess is that Bruce has no real plans to address DNN or ASP.NET because he's targetting the script crowd and "DIY" crowd that won't have the skills to implement an ASP.NET solution easily.
However, DNN is changing and they are putting in easier installation options for people, so that may change. I hope so for WWF at least.
I don't really care if Bruce does the guestbook, but a decent mailer for DNN would be nice. Especially if it had a monitor and ran as a service with some good monitoring and bounce management in it. There's nothing out there like that in ASP.NET that I've seen.
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Posted By: davidshq
Date Posted: 30 March 2007 at 3:08am
I think eventually we are going to see ASP fade out and individuals will have no choice but to move to ASP.NET. WebSecureStores, one host I use, no longer supports ASP at all because of the security issues. I disagree that ASP.NET is more difficult to use than ASP. The biggest difference I see in deployment is that most ASP.NET deployments utilize SQL Server backends rather than the 50/50 split in ASP towards Access databases.
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Posted By: Bluefrog
Date Posted: 01 April 2007 at 1:14am
The thing with ASP vs. ASP.NET is that with ASP you can fire up a text editor and get something working in seconds.
<% for each header in Request.ServerVariables response.write header & " = " & Request.ServerVariables(header) & " <br><br> " next %>
Save it as page.asp and you're done.
It's not much more work to do that in ASP.NET, but you've got to fire up Visual Studio, create a page, then build it. This is a lot more work for someone who is just starting out. (Compiling is a big step for someone that doesn't understand things well. Just setting up a machine to do it requires a good amount of knowledge.)
If you're already an ASP.NET developer, or you understand the model well, then ASP.NET is going to be much easier and more RAD. But for those that aren't programmers, ASP is just easier to understand.
There's just more of a learning curve with ASP.NET than ASP.
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