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Topic: upcoming v9 features?
Posted By: odang
Subject: upcoming v9 features?
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 9:54am

I'm going to be implementing a new site coming up and was wondering what some of the new features of v9 will be.

For me, I think the most important features I'm hoping for are SEO based features.
 
Some kind of a URL rewrite feature like the one community server has would be incredible.
 
Anyways, looking forward to it.
 
Thanks



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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 11:01am
ASP doesn't have the re-write capabilities of ASP.NET so can not be done without components installed on the server.

If you are able to install components on the server then http://www.helicontech.com/linkfreeze/ - Link Freeze will already work with Web Wiz Forums. Also ISAPI Re-write from the same people will work with very little modification and we are looking for native support for this component in upcoming versions.

Our own web hosting from http://www.webwiz.net - www.webwiz.net already supports ISAPI Re-write.


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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 1:05pm
Google, Yahoo and MSN all index any URL with a ? in it just as well as they index URL's without it.  Its a myth that they don't.  I have many webpages that have plain dynamic non-SEO-optimized URLs in the top ten of all the major search engines in relevant keywords.

Content and relevant links to your site are more important in my experience.


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Posted By: dfrancis
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by wistex wistex wrote:

Google, Yahoo and MSN all index any URL with a ? in it just as well as they index URL's without it.  Its a myth that they don't.  I have many webpages that have plain dynamic non-SEO-optimized URLs in the top ten of all the major search engines in relevant keywords.

Content and relevant links to your site are more important in my experience.
 
I agree! I've spent countless hours writing custom 404 handlers just to realize it made little difference as far as indexing. I do like shorter URLs but for a data driven site like the forum, it seems a little pointless.


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Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 8:42pm
On one site, I actually have a section of my WWF forums (with dynamically generated URLs and all) rank HIGHER for a set of keywords I would prefer another page on my site would rank high on.  And the other page has keywords in the URL, and the forum section does not! Smile

Both pages are on the same website and are major pages, both with lots of links in, but the forum page ranks well for one set of keywords, and the other page ranks well for another (both are in top 10 positions in the rankings, by the way).

I think the search engines are starting to downplay the importance of keywords in the URL because too many people have caught on and have started to use that technique to spam the index.

The search engines want people to focus on good content, and will keep adjusting their pagerank or site scoring to reflect that goal.

Long term strategy should always be content, content, content... and good content at that. Smile

Oh, and RSS feeds of your content seem to help more in my experience than what's in the URL.

There is one case where a dynamic URL will not be indexed by Google (and perhaps others).  If the URL has "id=" as one of the parameters, then the page won't get indexed.  Other than that, dynamic pages get indexed and rank well.


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Posted By: User123
Date Posted: 02 April 2007 at 10:32pm
FWIW, I've got many sites that use "id=" parameters that are indexed by Google without problems.


Posted By: odang
Date Posted: 03 April 2007 at 4:26am
I do agree that having querystrings in the url doesn't really matter, but as of now at least keywords in the url do help.  While link freeze is nice, it doesn't put the keywords in the url, it just simple masks the fact that a site is dynamic.  I do have the isapi rewrite on my server, but It seems like it would be a pretty tedious job to go and rewrite all the href tags to include keywords which if I wanted to I would just do and not even bother with the rewrite.
 
So back to my main question, any kind of a feature list besides what I've already read about skins?


Posted By: User123
Date Posted: 04 April 2007 at 5:11pm
I haven't used ISAPI Rewrite but it was my understanding that you can use regular expressions and database calls to automatically convert parameters into corresponding keyword based URLs and back - all without touching a line of code in your main site.


Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 05 April 2007 at 7:01am
Originally posted by User123 User123 wrote:

FWIW, I've got many sites that use "id=" parameters that are indexed by Google without problems.

You are lucky then.  On my sites, I have noticed that something with articleid= will get indexed but if it has id= by itself, it will not.

Also, Google specifically says (or said) it will not index pages with id= as a parameter (note that articleid= or itemid= is not the same as id=).

Example:
http://www.example.com/page.asp?id=1
Google won't pick up these pages in my experience.

Example:
http://www.example.com/page.asp?articleid=1
Google will pick up this page though.

I'm not sure what your trick is, but I never got Google to index any of my pages with id= in it, even though it indexes the rest of the site well.

Also, Google may have changed that.  I can't find the reference on their website that said it.  It used to be their somewhere under webmaster guidelines.  It seems they have rewritten a lot of their pages, including the webmaster guidelines since I last visited.


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