Unknown users!!!
Printed From: Web Wiz Forums
Category: Web Wiz Web App Support Forums
Forum Name: Web Wiz Forums
Forum Description: Support forum for Web Wiz Forums application.
URL: https://forums.webwiz.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=2447
Printed Date: 03 April 2026 at 4:59am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.08 - https://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Unknown users!!!
Posted By: klr3
Subject: Unknown users!!!
Date Posted: 05 May 2003 at 3:04pm
|
I have a small problem! Is there anyway to stop this, without disable the activuser function or opgrading to 7.01?? |
Replies:
Posted By: klr3
Date Posted: 06 May 2003 at 2:23am
|
I have traced the ip range - and guess what... The GOOGLE BOT is the bad guy!!!! 
|
Posted By: whittibo
Date Posted: 11 September 2003 at 10:24pm
dumb question here.. but don't we WANT Googlebot to come visit our sites?  I thought that was GOOD... ?!------------- Live and learn through trial and error ~ when all else fails, ASK! |
Posted By: the boss
Date Posted: 12 September 2003 at 10:33am
|
ssssssssshhhh..next time google bot come here.. he is not gonna like that! ------------- http://www.web2messenger.com/theboss"> 
|
Posted By: ljamal
Date Posted: 12 September 2003 at 12:24pm
|
With robots you can control what pages they access by adding a robots.txt file to your web site. Check the robots web site for more information about controlling the robot via META tags and robots.txt. ------------- L. Jamal Walton http://www.ljamal.com/" rel="nofollow - L. Jamal Inc : Web/ Print Design and ASP Programming |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 12 September 2003 at 12:47pm
|
Personally I would prefer googlebot comes and indexes my pages and puts them in the Google search engine. I hope he comes by and visits mine. GoogleBot, hey, follow these links down here below this text. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: whittibo
Date Posted: 12 September 2003 at 1:51pm
|
Well good then.. cause GoogleBot is ALWAYS at my place!! Hey Wistex, ya want me to send him your way when he's done with mine?! My members were getting concerned, they thought we had an overload of lurkers.. and one person kinda got a bit 'worried/anxious' over the whole thing. but sometimes we can have 23-30 show up! I have that great Navigation MOD and have the Active Users turned on, so my members could see everyone online.. ------------- Live and learn through trial and error ~ when all else fails, ASK! |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 12 September 2003 at 2:56pm
|
Yeah, whenever I see unknown for the OS and browser and active 0 minutes, I typically assume it's just some bots. And yeah, send him my way. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: whittibo
Date Posted: 15 September 2003 at 4:42pm
|
so what's it mean when he's there for 114 minutes?? could that mean someone is using Googlebots IP?
------------- Live and learn through trial and error ~ when all else fails, ASK! |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 15 September 2003 at 10:17pm
|
Google will index all your pages, so he may visit more than once. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: whittibo
Date Posted: 15 September 2003 at 10:21pm
|
well.. here's a perfect example..
just funny how sometimes he's there for '0 minutes' but yet here he is for 35, 34, 7, 36 all at the same time.. and this is a lite visit.. :) I am not complaining.. cause I think it helps our traffic.. we seem to do pretty well with the stream of newbies coming in!! ------------- Live and learn through trial and error ~ when all else fails, ASK! |
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 16 September 2003 at 12:12am
|
They may or may not be Google. They may be some other bot. Unless you checked the IP ranges, you would not know. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |
Posted By: pedalcars
Date Posted: 16 September 2003 at 6:33am
|
Yes, they could be Google or other search engines (good), or email harvesters (bad).
We get both on a reasonably regular basis, with Google being the most frequent visitor, then Inktomi (?I think it's spelled?) and others. When the active visitors jumps to around 30, it's a good indicator of robot activity. We do a quick IP check in the stats to make sure it's "safe" visitors rather than hackers; If it's the latter, the IP gets banned! ------------- http://www.pedalcars.info/ - www.pedalcars.info The most fun on four wheels 
|
Posted By: God_Struth
Date Posted: 16 September 2003 at 10:41am
|
Mmmm....
What you seem to be forgetting about google is one thing. If you have guest access denied on your forum googlebot will be refused entry like an ordinary user who doesn't have access, and rightly so because we don't want private areas all over the web. If the googlebot is on your site for more than 5 mins, once a month, then the chances are it is doing a deep crawl. If the googlebot is on longer than 15-20 mins then chances are it isn't the googlebot unless you have a mountain of a web site. As for the googlebot visiting your site several times a week? No. Highly unlikely. Worth further investigation if a robot comes more than once a month. As for the active user thing, I have never seen that issue on my forum in 3 years online. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 16 September 2003 at 4:58pm
|
I find that the google bot hits this site almost daily and updates it's casche of the site on Google around once a week depending on the section of the site. Google bot follows links from other sites so the more links from other sites the more often your site will get visited. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: pedalcars
Date Posted: 17 September 2003 at 3:38am
God_Struth, we get googled way more frequently than monthly, for the reasons -boRg- states. Plus there's assorted other search robots. We always investigate anything that looks even remotely dodgy, which is how we know this and also how we've identified and banned several would-be hackers!
 ------------- http://www.pedalcars.info/ - www.pedalcars.info The most fun on four wheels
|
Posted By: wistex
Date Posted: 18 September 2003 at 1:20pm
|
What are the symptoms of a hacker crawling your site? You must be using more tools than just looking at their IP address. ------------- http://www.wistex.com" rel="nofollow - WisTex Solutions http://www.caribbeanchoice.com/forums" rel="nofollow - CaribbeanChoice Forums |