v10 - Topic Rating
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Topic: v10 - Topic Rating
Posted By: MortiOli
Subject: v10 - Topic Rating
Date Posted: 21 January 2008 at 6:25pm
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Bruce, I know you're not taking any further feature requests etc, but one thing I noticed, which I found odd (not sure why), was that the topic ratings are out of 4, instead of the usual 5. In my mind, the topic rating should be out of 5, as 'out of 10' or 'out of 5' are the usual ratings you give something, and not so much 'out of 4'. Hope that makes sense. |
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Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 9:46am
I asked the same question and got this reply.
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Bruce wrote:Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 10:09am
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Will look at increasing this to a 5 star rating. Also at present the rating system is enabled board wide, not sure if this should be moved to a per-forum biases? ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 10:36am
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The Rating system has now been changed to be out of 5 rather than 4. If it looks a little strange when you click on the rating drop down then it maybe your browser has cached the CSS and/or the images, so you may need to do a hard refresh in your browser. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: Scotty32
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 11:19am
Yeah, that would be best i think. Would it be simple to have it part of the permissions table, for groups / users? ------------- S2H.co.uk - http://www.s2h.co.uk/wwf/" rel="nofollow - WebWiz Mods and Skins For support on my mods + skins, please use http://www.s2h.co.uk/forum/" rel="nofollow - my forum . |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 11:29am
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Possibly, would need to look into it.
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Posted By: miladanimator
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 12:11pm
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thanks a lot Bruce ... can you use ajax for rating system ??? just like this picture :  you can use this script : http://www.masugadesign.com/the-lab/scripts/unobtrusive-ajax-star-rating-bar/ - http://www.masugadesign.com/the-lab/scripts/unobtrusive-ajax-star-rating-bar/ or this one : "" http://demo.dmwtechnologies.com/PHP/AjaxRatingCounter/ - http://demo.dmwtechnologies.com/PHP/AjaxRatingCounter/ This package can be used to implement a star rating system that uses AJAX to update the average rate without reloading the rate page after a user has voted. "" |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 12:31pm
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It already uses AJAX for the rating system. It was to use AJAX when you click the stars or the radio button, but instead a 'Vote' button was added to prevent antecedently clicking on the incorrect rating. Once you click the 'Vote' button it uses AJAX to submit the response and update the drop down, so the page doesn't have to be reloaded. The system you mention would need quite a large star image inorder to correctly select the rating amount. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: MortiOli
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 1:23pm
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Brilliant, cheers Bruce!
Along the Ajax lines...this topic was at 3 stars, so I voted it 5, which said the average was now 4 stars. However, I had to refresh the page to see the stars change at the top - any chance these could change as you click the vote button?
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 1:47pm
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It doesn't because of the location of the rating displayed on the page and that the AJAX is already updating another area. Instead when you click the 'Vote' button the drop down is updated to inform you that either your vote is accepted or you have already voted before and displays the new rating. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: MortiOli
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 5:47pm
| That's cool - thought I'd mention it, incase it could be done. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 22 January 2008 at 5:54pm
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If there is time it will be looked at, as it's one of those annoying things that seems simple but will take the best part of a day getting it just right and working in all browsers.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 23 January 2008 at 10:28am
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The way you rate a Topic has been updated to look more pleasing on the eye, by loosing the radio buttons and 'Vote' button and instead uses a series of star images updated using javascript as you mouse over your choice. Due to IE 6 and below not supporting PNG images the feature doesn't look as nice in IE 6 and below, and instead looses some of the images and has GIF's instead for those images it does have. For everyone else using IE7, Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. you will see the feature in all it's glory. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: MortiOli
Date Posted: 23 January 2008 at 12:05pm
| Looks brilliant, Bruce! Nice one! |
Posted By: Nick-V
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 10:16pm
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Sorry if I missed something but why does the star graphic do the opposite of the group icon...
...the gold stars are on the right instead of progressing from 1-5 from the left...I'm sure this is not an accident but I'd love to understand it as its unintuitive to me.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 10:58pm
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Really it needs two sets of icons, the reason for the stars being on the right is because of were they are displayed in the page displaying the topics where they are displayed on the right hand side.
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Posted By: Nick-V
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 11:08pm
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Thanks Bruce...not sure if I understand the page display thing or the 2 sets of icons option but I really do believe this unusual right to left approach will be confusing and inconsistent.
However, I'm sure some renaming of the graphics would be a workaround if I really have to (although I still prefer using standard software packages).
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 9:15am
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If you look on the following page:- http://forums.webwiz.net/forum_topics.asp?FID=24 You will see that the ratings are against the right hand column and look better having them this way around when used in this page. If you use IE 6 or below then you have a completely different set of icons which do not include the blanked out ones which don't look good in GIF format when changing the background colour to anything other than a light colour. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: Nick-V
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 11:31am
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Thanks for your input again and sorry for my persistance which is simply intended to help.
I am using IE7 and I can see that the 5 star icon is right-alligned in the Topics column - that's fine.
However, I still believe that the same icon should have gold stars coming from the left like the group icon and as used elsewhere. We count and read from the left - 2 silver followed by 3 golds will look to many like a 2 rating.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 11:38am
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Thanks for your feedback. The rating system is still not yet complete, presently working on the blogging tools which is a massive project and plan to come back to the rating system later once we receive user feedback on it to make it available at a forum level rather than board wide. When the rating system was first started the first place that icons were added was on the Topics page and as it was aligned to the right of the table the stars were placed the same way as it did appear better as the rating was aligned to the right of the table cell in this area. However, now the system is more complete, it does look odd in other parts. Having it different directions in different places would look confusing, so will be having a look at changing this, which would as you mention be more consistent with the group star images. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: Nick-V
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 11:43am
| An idea: Use a 5 star icon that has right-alligned gold bits that appear - BUT make the silver ones invisible...that way you only see what its got and are not confused by what is doesn't have....and its cleaner. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 11:48am
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Trying that now, not sure though if I like it or not, as it's not now clear what the rating is out of. If you look on the topics page it just shows stars next to a topic, and it's not clear that this is a rating. With the blank stars next to it, it is clear that this is a rating and not just some random star images next to the topic. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: Nick-V
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 11:57am
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I like it (just checked your forum)!
People will soon know (they know 3 is more than 2 anyway!). You could say something in text perhaps when you hover over.
Small thing also: the column title "Rating" seems to be TOP in comparison with the other titles.
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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 12:07pm
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It's not align top, it just has ' style="float:right;"' on it so that
it is at the right hand side of the cell. For some reason and can only
guess because of some CSS browser bug it places it a couple of pixels
higher and have not found a way to get around this.
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Posted By: Nick-V
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 12:12pm
| I hate those problems! As rating is sortable maybe it deserves its own column. |
Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 12:14pm
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Found a solution by placing after the link for some reason drops the hight by a couple of pixels inline with the rest of the text. Wired. Didn't want to give it it's own column as this then makes it look messy and takes up space even if there isn't a rating on the topic. Looking at forums with topic rating already it seems only around 1 in 10 topics at most gets rated by a user anyway, so don't really want to give up to much space for this. ------------- https://www.webwiz.net/web-wiz-forums/forum-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - Web Wiz Forums Hosting https://www.webwiz.net/web-hosting/windows-web-hosting.htm" rel="nofollow - ASP.NET Web Hosting |
Posted By: Nick-V
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 12:22pm
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Good news...yeah a separate column would have been a shame.
Another justification...people are quite used to 5 star ratings on hotels etc and don't need telling its out of 5....I think it'll be OK and certainly a better presentation IMHO.
Good luck with blogging...
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Posted By: marzalli
Date Posted: 05 February 2008 at 9:43pm
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Rating Mod
Demo :
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Download:
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