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regarding web gardens or multiple worker processes

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Topic: regarding web gardens or multiple worker processes

Posted By: odang
Subject: regarding web gardens or multiple worker processes
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 3:14pm

I recently had to turn on web gardening on my windows 2008 box for my web site to handle the load it was receiving. This is something that will have to stay turned on as we continue to increase our traffic everymonth.

Turning this on effectively stopped forum searches from working properly, and I suspect it probably destroyed some other functionality.

We've already been running with the setting to store sessions in the DB so I know that's not the issue. It has to do with the application variables.

I set this option Const blnUseApplicationVariables = false in the forum setup file, but it didn't seem to make a difference. I created a script to see what application variables are created and the forum still seems to be creating them even with this setting set to false.

I'm very experienced in ASP and thought I'd try this post before diving in to try and fix it myself.

Any help Bruce or anyone?

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Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 3:37pm

You should create a virtual directory or sub domain for Web Wiz Forums and give it it's own application pool with a single worker process.

We see on our own Win2k8 and Win2k3 systems Web Wiz Forums handling over 500 active users from a single worker process without any issues.

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Posted By: odang
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 4:32pm

well, we have over 3000 active users during peak times. So any chance we can get this working on multiple worker processes

Posted By: odang
Date Posted: 17 December 2008 at 4:39pm

well, that's actually not even an option anyways since I use includes from outside the forum folder that would be in a nother application, so it fails. I gave it a go, but no go on the virtual directory. Is it a huge overhaul to not require the use of application variables for the forum?

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 18 December 2008 at 2:10pm

This should not be an issue as you can use include files from anywhere on the server or even a UNC share from a virtual directory as this site uses this extensively and splits many parts of the site across virtual directories using their own application pools and sharing common include files between them.

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Posted By: odang
Date Posted: 19 December 2008 at 8:38am

well I got an error when I tried it talking about one of the includes. Regardless, we will soon be taking this even further and putting the site on two Network load balanced servers, each running web gardens. I'd very much/need to move away from requiring the use of application variables for the Search and thing else that is not going to work properly. So do you have any suggestions to go that route?

Posted By: WebWiz-Bruce
Date Posted: 19 December 2008 at 10:06am

There isn't without recoding the entire search yourself.

You can have sessions working when using load balanced web servers by assigning each user to a particular server in your farm.

The easiest option though would be to place web wiz forums in a sub forum and have it running on one of your servers rather than both and using it's own single worker process application pool.

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